Are you saying it is racist to think God had different purposes in mind for different races when he made them, and that He didn't intend for humans to go about trifling with them by uniting them again physically in anything as they tried at Babel, but only to unite in the Christian Faith?
But wait! Isn't that what God clearly did with Israel by singling them out as His Chosen People, and ordering them to remain seperate from all other peoples? Doesn't that make the Bible the story of a racist God and a racist people (at least up to the time of Christ! so did God change in your view, and we have a "God of the Old Testament" and a "God of the New Testament"?) who refused to mix with others and were forced by their leaders to put away their strange wives AND CHILDREN when they did, like Ezra made them do (that would be Chapters 9 and 10 of Ezra).
Oh, and try taking Acts 17.26-27 out for a test-spin on St. Paul.
Your Christian teaching regarding race is a post-1850's fad. It has no real basis in anything Christians believed before that advent of Unitarianism and Universalism.
The the Apostles accepted these truths is easily proved by the various and sundry diverse Christian Rites they created to fit each culture - the Latin, the Coptic, the Syraic, the Byzantine, the Ethiopic, the Chaldeaic, the Armenian, the Indo-Malabar, the Gallic, the Mozarabic, etc. - each rite in the Church specifically created to suit the temperment and needs of that people. And the Church followed this system for centuries, creating along the way ever more new rites as needed, such as the Slavonic.
Much of the world's problems today are from Liberals trying to pretend everybody is all equal and the same, and therefore forcibly smothering out anything that smacks of differences because those difference might make someone feel bad since differences lead to judgements of better and worse. The extremist Catholic Latin Rite partisans are among the worst offenders in this regard.
and I reply: too easy - because He can, and He likes variety, unique creations, just like each snow-flake is unique - God has lots of paintbrushes and colors - infinite, we are all different shades, shapes and sizes
Are you saying it is racist to think God had different purposes in mind for different races when he made them, and that He didn't intend for humans to go about trifling with them by uniting them again physically in anything as they tried at Babel, but only to unite in the Christian Faith?
uh, no...that, too, was easy; and how do you know they were separated by race at that time? as I read, it was by languages which are made up of sounds which are colorless, and he forbade their unified opposition, and does in fact intend to unite those of true "Christian's Faith" which by definition is not in opposition to Him, "I do not my own works, but the will of my Father" duh!
But wait! Isn't that what God clearly did with Israel by singling them out as His Chosen People, and ordering them to remain seperate from all other peoples?
yes and no. Yes, he singled them out, but not by race. They were Jews because they followed Abraham in believing God, and not simply by birth - consider Ishamael and Esau, and especially not by skin color. Rahab was counted righteous and she was a harlot from another country - why? because she believed you ignorant one. Melchizadek was another declared righteous, and not of Jewish Birth, and Abraham paid tithes to Him. Dear dear man, you must read to be educated! God looks on the circumcision of the heart, not of the foreskin or skin color. The sons of Korah and many Jews were kicked to the curb for their opposition and unbelief. So, God gave some "born" jews the boot! And if you read Deuteronomy, you will read in the Law about the requirements to accept strangers, and how they become Jews by living within their precepets and believing in God as further described in much detail by Paul in the book of Romans. Ask any Jew if a person can become a Jew by marriage and by birth to a "mixed" marriage. The answer is yes. So out goes the separtism of God accusation.
Doesn't that make the Bible the story of a racist God and a racist people
no, see above
(at least up to the time of Christ! so did God change in your view, and we have a "God of the Old Testament" and a "God of the New Testament"?)
nope, same God - he doesn't change, nor does he answer to you or any man
who refused to mix with others and were forced by their leaders to put away their strange wives AND CHILDREN when they did, like Ezra made them do (that would be Chapters 9 and 10 of Ezra).
that was for their unbelif and liberal ideas, not because of their skin color. Where does it say God gave Ezra direction to select out all those with slightly darker or paler slightly different olive complexions with slightly BS! - how skilled are you at telling the difference between and Arab and a Jew's skin color? So, Mr. Skin color expert, what color were those "stangers" eh? I can't find the reference to skin color. hmmm... seems like it just didn't matter, did it?
Oh, and try taking Acts 17.26-27 out for a test-spin on St. Paul.
uh, yeah and? so what? He made all nations. I don't see the words "black" "white" "aisian" etc. - your point? Of course he made all nations - he made all men, and all nations are a subset. You make the first man - you make em all.
Your Christian teaching regarding race is a post-1850's fad.
no, it's not, you just haven't read anything pre-1850, or only selectively, and definitely not the scriptures - remember a true Christian believes and seeks to follow and adapt to the teachings of God's Word
It has no real basis in anything Christians believed before that advent of Unitarianism and Universalism.
uh, no, again, it's in the scriptures, which means from the earliest: Check out Colossions 3:11 "Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumsised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all." and what about the Egyptians that left with the Hebrews in the Exedous? and what about the Ethipian that Phillip in Acts 8:40 witnessed to? Ever seen a non-black ethiopian? What about Simon the Magician and Samaritan? Acts 8:9 Remember the parable of the Good Samaritan? Jesus' point was that the Jews were in opposition to the Samaratins, but He said they were neighbors. Simon was a Samaratin and he believed. Now, they were definitely of a different race and belief, and definitely not white anglo saxon, and yet became Christians.
The the Apostles accepted these truths is easily proved by the various and sundry diverse Christian Rites they created to fit each culture - the Latin, the Coptic, the Syraic, the Byzantine, the Ethiopic, the Chaldeaic, the Armenian, the Indo-Malabar, the Gallic, the Mozarabic, etc. - each rite in the Church specifically created to suit the temperment and needs of that people.
nope. wrong. What is the link besides your mental leap between the apostles themselves as they are written about in the Bible and the denominations you list (denominations means divide - man made, not God made - remember no individual Christian is perfect, so not all their decisions are either)
And the Church followed this system for centuries, creating along the way ever more new rites as needed, such as the Slavonic.
and some who called themselves christians even murdered others peoples, even other christians who disagreed with them, in Jesus name, like in the Spanish Inquisition, the Spanish Colonies, some of the Anabaptists etc. But not all of those who wore that name committed these atrocities. Individual decisions, individual merit or infamy, and Christ's name was sullied as He warned it would be - see John 16:1-3 where he forwarns that people will believe they are doing God service by killing those who believe in Jesus Christ. And read the scriptures and Jesus abolishes "rites", but man throughout the ages re-established them - but that is not His fault.
Much of the world's problems today are from Liberals trying to pretend everybody is all equal and the same, and therefore forcibly smothering out anything that smacks of differences because those difference might make someone feel bad since differences lead to judgements of better and worse. The extremist Catholic Latin Rite partisans are among the worst offenders in this regard.
I agree. We are all equally bad - all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. The real separtor is those who acknowledge their unworthiness and His worthiness and those who don't. The second set is further divided by all shades of beliefs of who is better and why, from the beginning in the Garden of Eden, dying on the fruit of the knowledge of Good and Evil as if mankind was ever really qualified to declare it so on any particular case completely - as though any one of us is omnipotent - being like God in His unique Most Highness. The only thing I am sure about, is what He has said. The rest is speculation - human wrangling - all equally devoid of whole truth, and equally deceptive. All men at some time in their life past the age of accountability, think they know it all. Some come to the realization they don't. Some come to the realization He does. And there are no statistics on these groups based on race. And the numbers change from day to day, so they wouldn't help if you knew. But God does, and He's not willing that any should perish, of any race. But some do, by their own choice. God Bless!
The Bible records one Adam and one Eve. And one Noah. Obviously, it was the ordained by God that races devoloped after that, or else it wouldn't have happened. Likewise, interracial marriage is ordained by God, for the same reason. Why? Because it was His will.
I wonder if preachers in the old south, when they preached on that incident in which Aaron and Mariam got leprosy, tried to contort it to not say what it said the way liberal preachers do with the parts about homosexuality.