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Grissom's widow heads home without space suit
Houston Chronicle ^ | Nov. 21, 2002 | Orlando Sentinel

Posted on 11/21/2002 1:37:48 PM PST by PAR35

MELBOURNE, Fla. -- Gus Grissom's 75-year-old widow and eldest son retrieved the fallen astronaut's personal effects Wednesday from the Astronaut Hall of Fame.

Among the boxed items was the Stetson hat President Lyndon Johnson gave Grissom, the astronaut's logbook and the folded American flag from his funeral at Arlington National Cemetery.

But the artifact his widow and son wanted most -- Grissom's Mercury 7 spacesuit -- was still sealed in a glass case at the Titusville, Fla., museum when the pair headed home to Houston.

Although the Grissoms had the suit for nearly 30 years before loaning it to the museum a decade ago, NASA says it always has belonged to the government.

According to NASA, Gus Grissom borrowed the suit in the early 1960s and never returned it. His family said he took it because he had learned NASA planned to destroy it, a contention the space agency disputes.

"The suit will remain at the Hall of Fame until the ownership issue is resolved," said the Grissom's Melbourne attorney Jim Fallace. "We're hoping to find some way of resolving it other than litigation."

Fallace said NASA has been aware since 1965 that the family had the spacesuit.

"It never was an issue until September of this year when Betty Grissom refused to sign a new loan agreement" with the museum, he said.

That month, the once not-for-profit Hall of Fame was taken over by Delaware North Park Services, which also has a contract with NASA to run the visitor center tourist attraction at Kennedy Space Center.

The Grissoms, who have long blamed NASA for the Apollo 1 launch-pad fire that killed Gus Grissom, 41, and two other astronauts, said they didn't want the space agency making money off his artifacts.

"Betty Grissom also is concerned that the Astronaut Scholarship Fund is not getting sufficient money from the use of her husband's artifacts now," Fallace said.

The Grissoms had planned to confront NASA officials Tuesday outside the museum to demand the silver spacesuit. However, shortly before the planned meeting, Fallace asked that it be rescheduled for Wednesday morning at his office.

During the 1 1/2-hour meeting with NASA's chief counsel Bruce Anderson and a Delaware North representative, the personal items were returned, ownership of the suit was discussed and the family's lingering questions over the fire were heard, Scott Grissom said.

And, although they left town without the spacesuit, the Grissoms took with them something possibly more valuable.

"It was probably the first time since the fire we really had a positive conversation with NASA," he said. "My mom and I are very encouraged."


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: apollo; apollo1; gusgrissom; mercury; museum; nasa
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To: Paleo Conservative

"Do they still have the spacesuits of the other astronauts that were with him on Mercury 7"
No!


41 posted on 02/12/2005 3:20:58 PM PST by BellStar (Pray for our heroes...)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
that necklace of VC ears

Gov't property or not? Could be argued.

42 posted on 02/12/2005 3:24:05 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: PAR35

I vaguely recall looking up info on that company once. There's something about it that bothered me, but I'd have to look it up again. Maybe it is a RAT-related company??????? Maybe not.


43 posted on 02/12/2005 3:31:14 PM PST by petitfour
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To: PAR35

According to NASA, Gus Grissom borrowed the suit in the early 1960s and never returned it. His family said he took it because he had learned NASA planned to destroy it, a contention the space agency disputes.



Wouldn't the suit he was wearing at his death have been fire damaged? Is this one damaged? I don't mean to appear dense, but I'm not understanding this. How could he have taken it home with him and then died in it at Kennedy? There must have been two suits. A proto-type maybe?


44 posted on 02/12/2005 3:48:35 PM PST by kalee (Kalee's Tinfoil Bonnets, purveyor of stylish tinfoil bonnets since 2000)
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To: kalee
Wouldn't the suit he was wearing at his death have been fire damaged? Is this one damaged? I don't mean to appear dense, but I'm not understanding this. How could he have taken it home with him and then died in it at Kennedy? There must have been two suits. A proto-type maybe?

This was his suit from the Mercury flight - a suborbital 15 minute flight in 1961 that traveled only some 300 miles down range.

The Apollo program used an entirely different kind of equipment. The fire was in 1967, 5 and 1/2 years after the suit in question was used.

If anything, the suit would have shown the effects of immersion in water. Grissom's flight was the one where the hatch blew before it was supposed to, the capsule sank, and Grissom almost drowned.

45 posted on 02/12/2005 4:15:03 PM PST by PAR35
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To: petitfour
I vaguely recall looking up info on that company once. There's something about it that bothered me, but I'd have to look it up again. Maybe it is a RAT-related company??????? Maybe not.

Sorry, I can't add any light to the subject. I probably posted this when I was involved in several (at the time) ongoing discussions about contracting out of government services.

46 posted on 02/12/2005 4:17:53 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Hah! I did not even see when you posted this story. I probably read this way back when and looked it up at the time.


47 posted on 02/12/2005 4:24:10 PM PST by petitfour
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To: PAR35

thanks for the explanation.


48 posted on 02/12/2005 4:24:28 PM PST by kalee (Kalee's Tinfoil Bonnets, purveyor of stylish tinfoil bonnets since 2000)
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To: BellStar
"Do they still have the spacesuits of the other astronauts that were with him on Mercury 7"
No!

Are you sure about that? According to one web site, the Alan Shepard suit is at NASA in Houston. They put the Glenn and Cooper suits at the Air and Space Museum in DC, and Schirra's at the museum in Kansas.
http://aesp.nasa.okstate.edu/fieldguide/pages/spacesuit/

This site also shows the John Glenn suit at the National Air & Space Museum, as well as at least one other Mercury suit.
http://www.nasm.si.edu/collections/space/space.html

The first site also shows NASA with several other astronaut suits from the Mercury program.

49 posted on 02/12/2005 4:36:11 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35
Betty Grissom has always had a prickly relationship with NASA, even before the 1967 fire that killed Gus. She wrote a book called Starfall in the '70s that was very critical of NASA. Tom Wolfe's The Right Stuff has a chapter on the suborbital flight of Liberty Bell 7 that gives some good background on this as well.

IIRC, Liberty Bell 7 was raised from the Atlantic Ocean a couple of years ago, but the hatch could not be located.

50 posted on 02/12/2005 4:50:29 PM PST by IndyTiger
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To: Search4Truth
Common decency demands giving away government property? Everytime a police officer dies on duty should the spouse get his or her patrol car? It's because the suit belongs to we, the taxpayers that no one has the right to give it away.
51 posted on 08/12/2007 2:54:43 PM PDT by JonnyRelentless
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


52 posted on 08/12/2007 2:59:54 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: jaw1964a

Gus Grissom didn’t sink the Liberty Bell 7 Mercury capsule
http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/missions/liberty_bell_000617.html

“Following the splashdown of “Liberty Bell 7”, the hatch, which had explosive bolts, blew off prematurely, letting water into the capsule and into Grissom’s suit. Grissom nearly drowned but was rescued by helicopter, while the spacecraft sank in deep water. Grissom maintained he did nothing to set off the explosives to blow the hatch, and NASA officials agreed. The craft was recovered in 1999 but there was no evidence of how the hatch had been opened. However, later experience showed that the force necessary to trigger the initiator for the explosive egress system would leave a major bruise, and Grissom had no such injury. Guenter Wendt, “Pad Fuhrer” for most of the early American space launches, believes that the cover protecting the external release actuator was accidentally lost, then the T-handle may have been pulled by a parachute shroud line, or have been damaged by the heat of re-entry and fired when it contracted during cooling.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Grissom


53 posted on 08/12/2007 3:05:02 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (eHarmony reject)
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