[Ragin1]

Bill never even imagined what George has wrought.

[sinkspur]

Yet our most basic freedoms as Americans – privacy in our homes, persons, and possessions; confidentiality in our financial and medical affairs; openness in our conversations, telephone, and Internet use; unfettered travel; indeed the basic freedom not to be monitored as we go through our daily lives – have been dramatically changed.

More hysteria from Ron Paul.

He's gonna get tossed out on his libertarian ass if he continues to oppose Bush.

[copycat]

The list of dangerous and unconstitutional powers granted to the new Homeland Security department is lengthy. Warrantless searches, forced vaccinations of whole communities, federal neighborhood snitch programs, federal information databases, and a sinister new "Information Awareness Office" at the Pentagon that uses military intelligence to spy on domestic citizens are just a few of the troubling aspects of the new legislation.

I'm not surprised Hillary voted Yea.

[Consort]

Wrong. When all those agencies are merged, most existing separate high level administrative position will no longer be needed. The same with many duplicative support positions. The combined agency will be cheaper to run, better coordinated and require fewer personnel than all the existing eparate agencies. This new agency will serve as a model for merging other existing fragmented agencies. The federal government/bureaucracy will get smaller.

[joesnuffy]

Addle brain inflated bureaucratic nightmare run by absurd authority figures..who couldnt find their azzes with both hands in the dark...

The incompetent leading the unwilling to do the unnecessary for the ungratefull...

The federal govt hasnt properly managed a program since I dont know when..imagine this inbreed bunch of cross purposed (not to mention cross-dressing) geeks running anything??

If the run this like they run the govt...which of course they will....

The biggest money wasting boondoggle of the last 10 million years of vertebrate history...

And we wont be one whit safer..

As they surely find it essential to disarm the average honest tax payer..and empower criminals

This whole fiasco is one giant PORK fest

[mrsmith]

"conceived virtually overnight, by a Congress that didn’t even read the bill that creates it"

Hmmm...

There was a motion to recommit the bill- that is a vote to consider it more.

BUT RON PAUL VOTED AGAINST IT, AND FOR VOTING ON THE BILL!!!

So if he thought that after nine months of debate there should have been more consideration why didn't he vote for that motion to recommit?

I guess because he's a politician LOL!

[foreverfree]

bump

[Dick Bachert]

His activities during the War Between the States tells me that he ought to know whereof he spoke:

“At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.”
Abraham Lincoln, The Perpetuation of Our Political Institutions: Address Before the Young Men's Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois January 27, 1838

DID THIS COUNTRY JUST SLASH ITS WRISTS -- METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING?