Is Israel becoming less Jewish?

israelinsider.com ^ | November 19, 2002 | Shalom Freedman

[Destro]

Bump it around for the Russian Freepers.

[Alberta's Child]

Whoever it was who said "Demographics is Destiny" was absolutely right.

[KantianBurke]

"The unfortunate efforts at religious coercion on the part of the ultra-Orthodox have led to a backlash in the larger secular society"

I've said it before and I'll say it again alonside this validation: most of the branches of ultra-orthodox in Isreal is the Jewish answer to the Taliban. Different sides of the same coin.

[robertpaulsen]

I'm curious. What percentage of Israeli citizens are Jews?

[plano29]

"I've said it before and I'll say it again alonside this validation: most of the branches of ultra-orthodox in Isreal is the Jewish answer to the Taliban. Different sides of the same coin."

Since when did Orthodox Jews start arresting and beating the non-observent? When did they start blowing up ancient monuments? When did they start harboring terrorists? When did they start kidnapping missionaries and Western Journalists?

Israel is the most religiously pluralistic society in the Middle East.

[sheik yerbouty]

A Chasidic Jew from Williamsburg was on line at an airport, and was going through a security check. He wore a long black caftan, had peyos and a long beard, and wore a large black hat. The security guard looks him up and down, and seeing this man in a strange garment, with a long bear, went up to the individual and asked? "Taliban?" The Chasid then replies; "Teitelbaum"!

[Austin Willard Wright]

Really? Who killed Rabin?

[KantianBurke]

They don't have control of the country as the Taliban did. Wait till they do. And the areas that they do control are already their run as their little religious fiefdoms. Complete with blazen hatred and discrimination for those citizens who don't follow the Torah word for word.

[rmlew]

Really? Who killed Rabin?

1. A single Religious nationalist, but not a member of an ultra-Orthodox group.
2. Rabin started it. Rabin had Jewish blood and the fall of Jerusalem on his hands. Rabin carried out the attack on the Altalena, killing Jews and denying the Irgun weapons with which to reopen the Tel-Aviv Jerusalem road in 1948.
Frankly the fact that he was not shot earlier, and only at the behest of a GSS agent, says a lot about the peaceful nature of Jewish religious nationalists.

[valkyrieanne]

Yes, because Jewish Israelis aren't having very many babies (outside of the Orthodox settlers, who have 7 or 8), and Arab Israelis are. It's called "outbaby the enemy," and it *works.*

[Alouette]

Complete with blazen hatred and discrimination for those citizens who don't follow the Torah word for word.

This disgusting accusation is entirely imaginary and was invented by secular extremists like Meretz and Shinui to justify THEIR OWN BLAZEN HATRED of observant Jews.

If you can find anything from any ultra-Orthodox site that matches the sheer blazen hatred in these cute cartoons from your Meretz and Shinui buddies .

Caption: "So everyone can see what a rabbi really is."

Caption: The New Enemies!!!!
They have to be EXTERMINATED while they are still LITTLE!

Caption: "The Orthodox Jews - black ants"
"Social bugs, black dressed, are acting together for their aims and obey blindly to their Queen"
Please, notice that the faces are well known Orthodox figures; the "ants" are transferring from the Public Treasure, piles of money, upon prayer shawls !

"The Millenium tourism $"
The Rabbi (Orthodox Jew) crucifies a Christian tourist (and the expected incomes) for the millenium (year 2000)

"Danger !!! Kippot in Ness Tsiona - Beware" [on the hat]: "Shas [Orthodox Sephardic party] ... Parasites"
"Fear in town" [with the two pigs]: "Great fear" [a word play between orthodox and fear]
"An Orthodox threat on our lives ! "
"in town Ness Tsiona"
"Join us to the struggle against the Orthdox darkness"

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Meretz MK Ran Cohen considers them to be "black ants".
Journalist Amnon Dankner thinks of them as dogs, "tied up in the yard and barking Psalms all night long".
Tour guide Sefi Ben-Yosef sees them as "a humming collection of locusts". Poet Moshe Dor pictures them as "the dark forces of our era".
Columnist Amnon Avramovicz maintains that they are "a death-causing plague".
Commentator Natan Donevitz imagines them as "black swarms".
Yoel Marcus, author and newspaperman, knows they are "black forces" and "soul snatchers".

Playwright Yosef Mondey opines that they are "rude baboons".
The now defunct Marxist daily, Al HaMishmar, the mouthpiece of the Mapam party, held them to be "barbarians...the black front...representing the most mystical, magical, primitive urge...their schools are ‘institutes of darkness’".
Gideon Sammet, journalist and former diplomat, knows they are "the most obscurantist and ugly phenomena of our time".

Shulamit Aloni, former Education Minister and progressive politician, is convinced they are "bloodsuckers...snakes...suckling from the most darkest urges that the Nazi horror suckled from. They are greedy, domineering, evil and primitive, immoral, parasitical and power-hungry".
Uri Avnery, media person, sees them as "bloodsuckers".
Meretz MK Professor Naomi Chazan "a terrible evil...a black genie". Acclaimed writer Amos Oz "armed groups of gangsters, criminals against humanity, sadists, pogromists and murderers...".
(All the quotations appeared in newspapers and other periodicals except for the words of Shulamit Aloni which were spoken in the Knesset Chamber).

And so on and so forth. The "they" are, of course, the Charedim. The religious, and more specifically, the more observant Jews, termed ultra-orthodox.

Since the beginning of the "intifada" most of the anti-religious incitement has died down as Israelis realize that the terrorists make no distinction between ultra-Orthodox Jews and secular Jews.

[TopQuark]

The grandchildren of many of those secular Jews who were founding fathers of Israel are often simply ignorant of Judaism.

That is what happens when you foresake your tradition for socialism and other varieties of group-think. It happens all over Europe and here, too.

[TopQuark]

My G-d! Alouette, I had no idea. A Jew, in the face of the danger of annihilation, developing such animal-like hatred towards another Jew. Leftists always succum to hatred.

I will keep an eye on these people now.

[Kaafi]

Those left parties indeed full of hate towards the orthodox Jews.
However, the orthodox Jews are to blame for the general secular population opinion of them, they don’t serve in the military (most of them) but they demand to receive money from the government to pay for their schools and the burden of taxes fall’s on the seculars (The orthodox aren’t very productive as a society).

[plano29]

I had no idea it was this bad. You would think these folks purchased back issues of Der Sturmer on eBay and copied the illustrations.

Thanks for posting this.

[js1138]

(The orthodox aren’t very productive as a society).

And they voted for Hillary Clinton. Sheesh, what a choice. I'd ask what's in the middle eastern water, but there isn't any.

[Alouette]

(The orthodox aren’t very productive as a society).

What the Chareidim Give & Take From Israeli Economy

Ultra-Orthodox Jews in the High Tech Sector

Both very long articles--the second is from a secular business magazine--go into a great amount of detail of the productivity of the religious Jews.

Personally, I think Chareidim should not avoid military service, and I have encouraged my son to enlist.

[KantianBurke]

Yawn. You again? We've been through this before. Still waiting on any sort of explanation regarding how those "tolerant" Orthodox went nuts on the Israeli airline and attacked their fellow passengers because of a film. Try not to change the subject, start calling everyone Nazis or dissappear like you did the last time.

[rmlew]

Amazing how much of it could be translatted directly from Strycher and other Nazis.