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1 posted on 11/19/2002 9:30:47 AM PST by madfly
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2 posted on 11/19/2002 9:31:56 AM PST by madfly
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3 posted on 11/19/2002 9:32:56 AM PST by madfly
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4 posted on 11/19/2002 9:34:26 AM PST by madfly
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Well, isn't that just great... I have three kids in college, get no tuition breaks, no loans, no gov. help, no grants, no breaks, no nothing. We are US citizens, lived here legally all our lives. My husband busts his buns daily to earn our living, legally. We are white Christian, law abiding, voting, normal, good US citizens. I think we are fast becoming an endangered species! Maybe we should give up our citizenship and come back to US illegally so we can get a break on tuition. SHEESH!
5 posted on 11/19/2002 9:34:44 AM PST by buffyt
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Yet if there is a national trend toward bending the rules to allow greater access to education for illegals, Virginia's Republican Attorney General Jerry Kilgore wants no part of it. To the great consternation and outrage of groups like the Mexican American Legal Defense Fund, he recently directed his state's public colleges not to enroll illegals. And get this-he also told the institutions to report illegals they discover on campus to federal authorities. (The horror!)

The nerve of that guy, actually believing that, as governor, he should enforce the law. Next thing you know someone will say that a president who has lied under oath should be removed from office.

6 posted on 11/19/2002 9:36:13 AM PST by dirtboy
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Memo to Laura: "Don't ever darken the doors of thw WH again!"

LOL, but seriously, when is Duhhbya gonna send her the memo?

7 posted on 11/19/2002 9:36:33 AM PST by oldvike
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8 posted on 11/19/2002 9:39:04 AM PST by antaresequity
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9 posted on 11/19/2002 9:43:39 AM PST by madfly
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There should be no appeals made by elected officials of the Republican Party, to illegal aliens. NONE! We shoudln't be rewarding lawbreakers of any kind. Hatch and Cannon are dead wrong on this one.
10 posted on 11/19/2002 9:47:15 AM PST by Reagan Man
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I will not vote for anyone that plans on replacing me with the vote of an illegal. Bush and the Republican party have had their last vote from me, my family, my friends and co-workers.

They all had better hope they have swung enough illegals to make up the difference. I'll write in Tancredo for President, but I will not vote for Cornyn, Perry, et al, ever again.

The future of conservatism, the demographics of the country, taxes, and the constitution hang in the balance on this one issue. Bush has spit on his oath, he is attempting to rip the Constitution in half and destroy the most important laws in the land regarding our sovereignty.
11 posted on 11/19/2002 9:48:07 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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'Dream Act' my fanny. Hatch and his cronies truly are living in a bubble.

Do the wishes of the majority of Americans mean anything to these people?

12 posted on 11/19/2002 9:51:39 AM PST by skeeter
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Her article is a major reason why legal immigrants are backlashing against Bush. They see him as soft on the very laws they were held to just because they weren't from Mexico. I know of a number of South Africans who came here legally and have followed all the rules and became US Citizens. They are proud to have done so. Now, one of these people can't seem to get her parents here. I told her to vacation in Mexico and then cross the border as tourists. Why not? It seems our southern border is open to all who want to cross.
14 posted on 11/19/2002 9:53:31 AM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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People like Hatch do love that cheap labor, illegal though it may be.

Policies of this type always remind me of that 18th century tune "The World Turned Upside Down". I am given to understand that this was not a favorite of Lord Cornwallis although Mr. Hatch seems quite fond of it.



15 posted on 11/19/2002 9:57:34 AM PST by Bacons Rebellion
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"Fearful of reprisals at the voting booth, the GOP has largely avoided taking on such these immigration-related issues."

On balance, I don't think it's a partisan issue because the same could be said of the democraps. Looking at the long-term agenda, it could only be a continuance of plans to dispense with borders. This should have become evident to everyone on 9/12/01 when the first thing we should have done was seal the borders, as any nation under attack with any sense of survival should have done. Mexico, Canada and the U.S. must already be linked on the drawing board as a single political/economic entity in the minds of the 'planners.'

Sovereignty? An archaic expression once used by fledgling republics back in the 20th Century.

26 posted on 11/19/2002 10:36:07 AM PST by Eastbound
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Bump!
35 posted on 11/19/2002 11:35:47 AM PST by DoctorMichael
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The worst part of all this is that Hatch is a total squish on immigration, and he is taking over as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee in January, the committee which has jurisdiction over the Immigration and Naturalization Service. The Immigration Subcommittee Chairman will be the pro-illegal immigrant, pro-amnesty, anti-enforcement of immigration laws Sam Brownback of Kansas. This does not bode well for our country.
38 posted on 11/19/2002 12:15:23 PM PST by 3AngelaD
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Hatch likes to position himself as the God-fearing Mormon who brags about writing Gospel music and following God's edicts...and then the hypocrite turns out to be an ORIGINATOR of legislation like this that is thoroughly unjust, corrupt and evil...legislation that harms, penalizes and undermines law-abiding, hard-working American citizens and rewards criminals and law-breakers. This aspect of him disgusts me just as much as Bush's claim that he reads the Bible every night and Jesus Christ is his hero -- and then turns a blind eye as the country he has sworn to defend is being destroyed, Border Patrol guards are being violently murdered, and innocent Americans are being preyed upon by gouging taxes to pay for freeloading illegals, forced to see their qualities of life falling apart, and in growing instances, becoming victims of violent crimes like home invasion, robbery, rape and murder from these interlopers.

Since Hatch is a Mormon and follows the Church's instructions to store a year's worth of food (to cope with the famines that the Church prophesizes are heading for this country) -- I hope he is happy when those awful days come to pass and his children and grandchildren are forced to stand in long lines and compete with all these illegals for for their daily ration of bread and water. He can take comfort in that he had a hand in their suffering.

"God-fearing" politicians like Bush and Hatch are going to have to answer for their deeds on Judgment Day...sadly, all of us have to live in the here and now with the consequences of their corrupt actions.

45 posted on 11/19/2002 12:41:11 PM PST by hot august night
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by some estimates as many 600,000 in our high schools-

I doubt if many of these students are alone here in the US. They probably live with at least 1 illegal parent. Maybe there are are 2 illegal parents, maybe 1 or more illegal siblings and maybe illegal relatives. What does Hatch propose to do about them?

If the student gets in-statue tuition breaks and lawful residency upon graduation, what happens to these relatives? I doubt if Hatch is for deporting them, even though they probably are illegal and are not the ones graduating from high school. In effect this will be an amnesty for anyone who has a kid in school, because of course, "you cannot split up the family".

50 posted on 11/19/2002 12:54:36 PM PST by gubamyster
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Why do conservatives like Hatch, and his House colleague Rep. Chris Cannon, support a bill that would reward illegality?

That is THE POINT. It is precisely this kind of gross appeasement that acts as a Magnet for MORE Illegal Immigration. The folks South of the Border know what is going on. When they hear that many states in America, backed by our Federal Government, are allowing Illegal Aliens In-State Tuition Breaks and a fast track to American Citizenship they naturally respond with their feet just like they do with our Amnesties and other give aways.

At a time when America is being invaded by thousands of Illegal Aliens every day and rogue Muslim Terrorist Groups are desperately trying to infiltrate our country so they can visit more Horrors like 9/11 on America we have so-called Conservatives like Hatch that are creating YET MORE incentives for foreign nationals to break our laws, destroy our sovereignty and degrade our national security. This is just absolutely Mind Boggling.

53 posted on 11/19/2002 1:27:28 PM PST by WRhine
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As someone who has just been told I'll have to spend an extra $1000 to extend my H1B visa for another year this just makes me feel great.
58 posted on 11/19/2002 2:25:30 PM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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