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To: lentulusgracchus
"Your challenge seeks to take advantage of the fact that the informational well has been poisoned by busy fingers ever since 1965, when Lyndon Johnson, in the fulfillment of his potential for cosmic wickedness, deliberately opened the floodgates because his fellow Southerners wouldn't "vote right"."

Well, since Lyndon's folly, there have been eight years of Nixon/Ford, eight years of Reagan, four years Bush I, and four years of Bush II (I'm guessing eight), as opposed to four years of Carter, and eight years of Clinton (thanks to Perot). There was the Reagan revolution, and now the Dems have no control over any aspect of the Federal government, no leader, no message, and no direction.

How's Lyndon's plan doing so far?

"If there are reliable figures anywhere, let's have them. But you know as well as I, how hard the Democrats and the Business Wing of the GOP have been working to conceal the extent of the invasion."

I'm not wasting my time, you don't WANT to believe anything other than what you already believe.

I will believe the figures posted by the Border Patrol and the INS, long before I believe anything posted by anyone calling this an "invasion"...in and of itself, that shows a bias.

"My own guess is about 30,000,000, extrapolating from population increases in Texas and California."

Well thank you for that, why not make it 100 million, or a gizzillion!!!

My guess is about 5 million, roughly 50% of them being Mexicans.

"There, you did it again, pointing to the absence of evidence (good numbers) as evidence of absence: a fallacy. You're so busy being cute, you don't even care that your argument is intellectually corrupt and morally questionable, given the attendant consequences."

My argument is intellectually corrupt?

You guess that Lyndon Johnson set into motion a plan to impact the vote in the US, and that he did it in order to positively impact the Democrats, yet since 1965, Republicans have enjoyed many more victories than Democrats, all along the board. Take a look at the general make-up of government BEFORE Lyndon brought in immigrants to strenghten his party.

"If you don't want to contribute, if you don't want to help, fine. But please refrain from disingenuously taunting someone who is trying to discuss it seriously."

LOL!!!!!

This from the guy who "guesses" at the number of illegals in the country!!!

LOL!!!!

BTW, IF there are so many illegals in the country, AND they are here to help the Democrats stay in power, then why is it that with the exception of California, the States with the biggest illegal immigrant problems have largely conservative elected officials?

1,111 posted on 11/26/2002 4:53:41 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
This from the guy who "guesses" at the number of illegals in the country!!!

Joining you, and everyone else who isn't lying, or trying to.

BTW, IF there are so many illegals in the country, AND they are here to help the Democrats stay in power, then why is it that with the exception of California, the States with the biggest illegal immigrant problems have largely conservative elected officials?

Because they haven't got their Motor Voter Citizenship papers yet. Once they start voting, Texas Republicans are toast, California Republicans are toast, New York Republicans and Arizona Republicans and lots of other Republicans are all toastier than pop-tarts.

Which was what Landslide Lynt'n intended. He couldn't stop the then-current electorate from swinging for Nixon and whoever else the Pubbies put up -- he called the turn himself, at the signing ceremony for the 1964 Civil Rights Act, in a famous quote -- but he could sure compass their doom over the longer term. And he did.

1,112 posted on 11/27/2002 11:47:53 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Luis Gonzalez
My guess is about 5 million, roughly 50% of them being Mexicans.

No way, Jack! We've got nearly half a million Mexican illegals in Houston alone! That's illegals who came here since the 70's -- and I saw lots of illegals walking around when I got here in 1979.

A lot of them didn't take the amnesty in 1986 (tho' a lot did), because they didn't want to expose themselves -- they just stayed in the background, and so they stayed illegal. There's been a land-office business in phony documents, rent receipts and backdated utility bills and birth certificates and so on, and I'm not counting any of that as "washing" illegals -- if they got here illegally, they're illegal and shouldn't be here, period. I don't care who they fooled down at the Driver's License office and whether they (illegally) registered to vote through Al Gore's Motor Voter fraud.

Bottom line, if you really checked out the 800,000 Hispanics living in the Houston SMSA, more than half a million of them would be Mexican and Central American nationals who came here illegally -- and are therefore still illegals AFAIC. Their children are U.S. citizens by U.S. law, if they were born here -- but they're still here illegally!

The big majority of all Hispanics living here -- about 70-75% -- are Mexicans, almost all of whom swam rather than immigrated. Even the late Ninfa Laurenzo, pillar of the Hispanic Republican caucus in Texas, immigrated illegally -- literally swimming across the Rio Grande when she was a young woman, back in the 1930's or 1940's.

1,113 posted on 11/28/2002 12:01:02 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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