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Democrats Hold Homeland Security Bill Hostage over Partisan Politics
FOX News ^ | 11/18/2002 | Staff

Posted on 11/18/2002 2:46:30 PM PST by ex-Texan

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:35:11 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: democratsblockbill; pelosihastantrum
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To: For the Unborn; Wphile
Give me a break--the very last and I mean last people that need protection are the pharmaceutical companies.
21 posted on 11/18/2002 3:26:33 PM PST by Boxsford
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To: ex-Texan
No one is an ex-Texan -- you're just temporarily displaced.
22 posted on 11/18/2002 3:37:19 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: mwl1
They are putting Landrieu in a rather difficult position, aren't they?

http://www.suzieterrell.com

23 posted on 11/18/2002 3:37:58 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: ex-Texan
Pooh-LOUSEY, Pooh-LOSER, Pooh-LEFTY -- but is she taller than DasHOLE?
24 posted on 11/18/2002 3:41:30 PM PST by jrlc
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To: DallasMike
I live in California. Would Texas be willing to adopt me as one of their own?
25 posted on 11/18/2002 3:41:57 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: jbind
Yes and most in congress have not read the nearly 500-page bill. That is an outrage.

You legislative sons of b***** should read the laws you want to impose on the rest of us! Is that such a tall order? You same grandstanding pols passed the so-called "USA Patriot Act (anything but) without reading that one either!

What is so important to members of congress they cannot read the laws they wish to impose?

I am a conservative. I voted for, and supported, Bush. I am against a Department of Homeland Security. There is nothing helpful about creating a monstrous federal bureaucracy and taking away our freedom in the process. If we want to improve security, we need to have the existing agencies (there are plenty agencies and plenty employees) just do their job. We don't need a bigger agency, more employees, more laws, more regulations and more confusion among the incompetents already employed.

A country wanting more security might want to start at the kindergarten level of SECURING THE DAMN BORDERS!!!!

26 posted on 11/18/2002 3:50:49 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: My2Cents
You bet!
27 posted on 11/18/2002 3:54:47 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: My2Cents
I agree 100 percent. Clean it up!
28 posted on 11/18/2002 3:55:18 PM PST by Howlin
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To: ex-Texan
The Democrats first held up the bill to protect their union votes.

Now they're holding up national security to protect the trial lawyers DNC donations.

Democrats have no shame.

29 posted on 11/18/2002 3:57:13 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: My2Cents
"In all honesty, perhaps the Republican Senators should support a clean bill. I've always thought the way Congress can "Christmas-tree" a bill with non-germane provisions, completely unrelated to the main subject matter of a bill, was absurd".

Agreed - This is like taking a few minor office supplies from your employer (pens, pencils, etc.), and then remembering that you forgot to take the phone, filing cabinets, printer, fax machine, Palm Pilot and computer as well.

30 posted on 11/18/2002 3:57:46 PM PST by tuna_battle
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To: mwl1
The GOP House added these provisions, all of which are likely good for the economy and for homeland security.

Why not split it into two bills--one with the homeland security, and the other with all of the pork that is so important to the Representatives?

31 posted on 11/18/2002 3:58:53 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: ex-Texan
The Dems are a big POS and so is Homeland "Security".

This whole thing is just a big gagglef**k. Nobody wins when the American spirit loses.

32 posted on 11/18/2002 4:00:48 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: End The Hypocrisy
$250,000 cap on damages into the bill, for when a faulty smallpox vaccine ruins a child's life by giving it autism (for example). A person's brain is only worth a quarter of a million despite inflation?

Bush wants to be able to give small pox vacines in a national emergency. If he doesn't, these kids will die of smallpox anyway, right?

33 posted on 11/18/2002 4:00:49 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: ex-Texan
Good. The Homeland Security bill is blatantly unconstitutional. No conservative should support it.
34 posted on 11/18/2002 4:03:20 PM PST by nonliberal
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To: ex-Texan
The Associated Press contributed to this report.

I guess I'd like to know what's really in the Bill rather than what the AP says. And why something is in the bill. The AP doesn't always tell the whole story.

35 posted on 11/18/2002 4:08:37 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: nonliberal
"The Homeland Security bill is blatantly unconstitutional.

Care to expound?

36 posted on 11/18/2002 4:12:58 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: concerned about politics
I guess I'd like to know what's really in the Bill rather than what the AP says.

If you find out what is in the bill please do inform those who voted for it.  It would be nice if they new what they were voting on too.


37 posted on 11/18/2002 4:13:15 PM PST by WarHawk42
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
"There is nothing helpful about creating a monstrous federal bureaucracy and taking away our freedom in the process."

Combining and making existing agencies communicate with one another amounts to "creating a monstrous federal bureaucracy"?

38 posted on 11/18/2002 4:15:09 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Combining and making existing agencies communicate with one another amounts to "creating a monstrous federal
bureaucracy"?

No, but this does.

Though a vote was expected late Monday, a standoff could affect whether the bill, which includes provisions for establishing a
new 170,000-employee homeland security agency, will be passed by the end of the 107th Congress this year.


40 posted on 11/18/2002 4:21:51 PM PST by WarHawk42
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