[Chancellor Palpatine]

They have a visceral hatred of government of any size, but blind hatred of government is thin gruel on which sustain a healthy, prosperous community.

Applause and cheers. Thank you.

They want the infrastructure that the prosperous society leaves behind, yet are incapable of creating it themselves. Their models won't work, because it fractures.

Think about the old west. When those communities start, they are perfect libertarian microcosms. Wild, wooly, lawless - places where decent people were concerned for their lives (actually, ghetto areas underserved by police are like this as well). As time would go on, things would coalesce, first with a local strongman, later the society would stabilize with law. Secure property, and reasonable public order followed.

[u-89]

Your law and order in the old west analogy is interesting. Think of the Kansas cattle towns at the end of the trails from Texas. When towns became "respectable" they didn't like the cowboys cutting loose on the other side of the tracks and got government to crack down on it and guess what? The cattlemen went elsewhere and these towns lost all the business the cattlemen brought with them which made the town in the first place. Not to say that we do not need some sort of regulation in society but there are unintended consequences of government actions against human nature. Look at prohibition and the rise of organized crime/corruption of law enforcement and the judiciary that resulted for a perfect example. The Soviets tried to create a "New Man" and that didn't work too well either.

[Roscoe]

They want the infrastructure that the prosperous society leaves behind, yet are incapable of creating it themselves.

Political termites.

[exodus]

They have a visceral hatred of government of any size, but blind hatred of government is thin gruel on which sustain a healthy, prosperous community.

To: Kevin Curry; wimpycat
Think about the old west. When those communities start, they are perfect libertarian microcosms. Wild, wooly, lawless - places where decent people were concerned for their lives (actually, ghetto areas underserved by police are like this as well). As time would go on, things would coalesce, first with a local strongman, later the society would stabilize with law. Secure property, and reasonable public order followed.
# 81 by Chancellor Palpatine
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"Wild, wooly, and lawless;" that's not any libertarian's idea of utopia, Palpatine. You're thinking of anarchism. It's not the same thing as libertarian thought.

Our libertarian Founders didn't create a "wild, lawless" system; they created a law based upon the recognition of our God-given rights, and they created a government limited by the will of the people's representatives. They created a Republic.

Our Founders were not anarchists.

[exodus]

They have a visceral hatred of government of any size, but blind hatred of government is thin gruel on which sustain a healthy, prosperous community.

To: Kevin Curry; wimpycat
"...They want the infrastructure that the prosperous society leaves behind, yet are incapable of creating it themselves. Their models won't work, because it fractures..."
# 81 by Chancellor Palpatine
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Our libertarian society has lasted for quite a while already; the socialism you advocate has already failed in every country that's adopted it.