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To: Roscoe; VaBthang4
To: VaBthang4
"No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved," wrote Samuel Adams in 1775. "On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders." http://www.ocregister.com/commentary/columns/greenhut/2002/greenhut20020707.shtml
# 176 by Roscoe
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Your link supports my assertion that the Founders were libertarians, Roscoe.

Freedom, limited government, the rule of law, those are libertarian values, and that's the values we share with the Founders of our nation.

Further quotes from your link-

"...The libertarian goal - and the goal of America's founders - is to limit government to some clearly defined tasks. National defense, but no empire. Provide for public works, but leave the economy to the efforts of a free people. Pass laws that punish people for harming others, but otherwise leave them to their own devices.

The libertarian political program is superior to the conservative one, because it measures its goals against constant and measurable ideas - freedom, limited government, the rule of law. Conservatism is forced to defend whatever the status quo is in society, whether it's a status quo of freedom, or a status quo of tyranny.

227 posted on 11/20/2002 4:26:32 AM PST by exodus
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To: tpaine; B. A. Conservative; Tauzero; OWK; paulklenk; Twodees; balrog666; RonPaulLives; ...
"...The libertarian political program is superior to the conservative one, because it measures its goals against constant and measurable ideas - freedom, limited government, the rule of law. Conservatism is forced to defend whatever the status quo is in society, whether it's a status quo of freedom, or a status quo of tyranny..."
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That would also explain why liberals can change society, but conservatives can't change it back.

Ever notice how our government becomes more and more socialist over time? It's because liberals get socialist laws passed, and conservatives accept those socialist laws as something that can't be changed.

Conservatives fight against socialist changes, but once the change is make, the fight is over.

229 posted on 11/20/2002 4:34:22 AM PST by exodus
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