Yes! They will move. That's why people are against the FSP
Posted on 11/18/2002 7:26:58 AM PST by Jack Black
Sounds like you jumped in on the conversation between myself and wimpycat without having read the previous posts. Go read them, and you may just understand the point, if you're clever..
You didn't understand my point either. The 20,000 will likely be but the tip of the iceburg, the *first wave*.
The possibility of 40,000 *contrarian votes* won't be much of a problem if there are 400,000 of those new chum voters overwhelming them by the end of the decade- if America still has anything resembling free or honest elections by then.
But my interest in relocating is not at all *solely* for the purpose of influencing the political life in that location, but in making it possible to reside and remain there with a minimum of external interference. I expect that'll be a common cause with many long-term residents, and an answer to their prayers.
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Once they get the UFO people to join with them?
I highly doubt that. The most likely result of 20,000 people moving into the state is those 20,000 people moving back out of the state in a few years.
The possibility of 40,000 *contrarian votes* won't be much of a problem if there are 400,000 of those new chum voters overwhelming them by the end of the decade
Like I said, the only state you could take over with that many votes is Wyoming--and there are very good reasons for Wyoming having as low a population as it does, most of which relate to the free market. Increasing the population of Wyoming by 400,000 or so would require a program of public largesse--and lots of it--in order to achieve the goal.
if America still has anything resembling free or honest elections by then.
Well, it looks like you have a handy excuse for failure already primed up: "the elections were stolen by the EE-VIL Republicans and Democrats."
I know what my point was, but I'm not going to waste time explaing myself to someone too lazy to read (or too stupid to comprehend) my previous posts. You can take a running jump, for all I care...
Sure.
It's what passes for Libertarian foresight.
Come on over.....but I gotta warn you all, the rats are firmly positioned in the trenches here. And they're not all urban either, there are a lot of the rural hippie communes scattered about.
BTW, the "strip" is nearly 120 miles long (between eugene and pdx) but inbetween, in the heart of the valley, are some very conservative outposts that would make excelent "forts" from shich to attack the hostiles.....
EBUCK
My fiance and I are on a five year plan to land ourselves in the Forest Grove area. But, to be truely effective at turning the state, we would want to plant about 10000 conservatives in the basement of Powell's bookstore.
I don't worry about the dirt eating hippies out in Elmira, Blachely, Poodle Creek areas. They don't vote. It's the Verna Katz/Karl Marx NAMBLA crowd around 11th and Everett(?) that need to be neutralized.
I say we take the Bridgeport Brewery over as a staging area.
So, you and a few thousand of your buddies want to move in from outside, displace the current constituents, and take over the control of the state govt. to avoid "external" interference.
Hypocrite. I expect the long term residents of Idaho, whom I know quite well, will despise you.
Nonsense! And you know it.
Nonsense! And you know it.
Nonsense yourself. The margin of victory in most Congressional races exceeds 20,000 votes.
I'm sure you really believe that
I think most people on FR think the Founding Fathers are
Spinning in their graves!
Maybe if they came one at a time. If 20.000 show up, with all their kith and kin, the economy wouldn't absorb them. The job market is tight enough without 20,000 new resumes on the market. What are all these pocupines intending to do for work, since they clearly intend to do away with any govt. sponsored unemployment programs? Take to the hills like Randy Weaver? Sell each other tourist trinkets?
No, instead Idaho would suddenly jump to a high unemployment rate, housing would hit a shortfall that would send prices sky high, locals would be displaced by overabundant labor, the schools would be instantly over capacity, and the newbie voters would all be clamoring how they don't want to pay any taxes to cover their part of the public burden.
But, near as I can see, none of them have given the least thought to reality. They're not fascists, rascists, or socialists. They're idealists, which is worse.
Yes! They will move. That's why people are against the FSP
Most of them. And this thread is typical
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