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To: okie01
Everything your Dr. Spence said about fluorine & fluorides could've been said about chlorine & chlorides.

Point me to a source other than you on that.

Regrettably, every profession has its loons. And charlatans.

And the great okie01 is more esteemed than all of these people...


Esteemed Voices have, for 50 years, warned
the American public that water fluoridation
has dangerous long-term consequences to health

 
"I am appalled at the prospect of using water as a vehicle for drugs. Fluoride is a corrosive poison that will produce serious effects on a long range basis. Any attempt to use water this way is deplorable."
Dr. Charles Gordon Heyd,
Past President of the American Medical Association.


"fluoridation ... it is the greatest fraud that has ever been perpetrated and it has been perpetrated on more people than any other fraud has. "
Professor Albert Schatz, Ph.D. (Microbiology),
Co-Discoverer of streptomycin

Join voices with the following medical professionals
who see fluoride as a health hazard.

William Marcus, Ph.D., D.A.B.T. (Toxicology), former U.S. EPA, Senior Science Advisor, Office of Drinking Water.*
Albert W. Burgstahler, PH.D. (Organic Chem, Environ. Fluoride)
Robert J. Carton, Ph.D. (Environ. Sciences and Risk Assessment).
Paul Connett, Ph.D. (Environmental Chemistry and Toxicology).
Richard Foulkes, M.D., fmr. Consult. to Health Minstr., BC, Canada

J. William Hirzy, Ph.D. (Chem and Risk Assess) Sr.VP, NFFE,EPA
Robert L. Isaacson, Ph.D. (Neurobehavioral Science). Dist. Prof.
Prof. David C. Kennedy, D.D.S., Inter. Acad. Oral Med. and Toxicology.
Harold D. Kletschka, M.D., F.A.C.S.(finr. Chair. of Bio-Medicus,Inc)
Lennart Krook, D.V.M., Ph.D. (Pathology) Cornell Univ.and NYSC.

Richard A. Kunin, MD., Pres., Soc. for Orthomolecular Hlth.Medicine
Gene W. Miller, Ph.D. (Biochemistry and Toxicology).
Phyllis Mullenix, Ph.D. (Pharmacology and Neurotoxicology)
John Colquhoun, BDS, MPhIL Ph.D., DipEd., Prin. Dent. Ofc. NZ.
John A.Yiamouyiannis, Ph.D. (Biochemistry)

A. K. Susheela, Ph.D., F.A.Sc., F.A.M.S. (Histocryochemistry)
Benedict J. Gallo, Ph.D.(Botany). Research Mcrobiologist.
Norman R. Mancuso,Ph.D. (Chemistry) Apollo Project Scientist.
Andrew Berna-Ificks, Hazardous Substance Engineer, Cal EPA.
Jason Kupperschmidt, B.C. (Chem. Engr)

Rudolph Ziegelbecker, Ph.D. (Phys.) Inst. of Environ Hlth.Austria
M.A. Krikker M.D., Hemochromatosis Found, Albany, N.Y.
Dean Burk, Ph.D. (Biochemistry) former Senior Chemist and
Director Cytochemistry Section, National Cancer Institute.
Harold Warner, Prof Of Research; Chief, Biomedical Engineer Div.

Sheila L. M. Gibson, M.D., B.Sc., M.F. Hom. (Research Physician)
James B. Patrick, Ph.D. (Chemistry) , Antibiotics Research.
I. R. B. Mann, Senior Lecturer in Environ. Studies, U. of Auckland.
Bruce J. Spittle, Ph.D., Psycho. Med., U. of Otago Med. Sch., NZ
George L. Waldbott, MD., fndr. Inter Soc for Fl. Res. and J. Fluoride

Alfred Taylor, Ph.D, Research Scientist, Clayton Fnd. Biochem. Inst.
Ludwik Gross, M.D, fmr Chief of Cancer Res. Vet. Admin, N.Y.
Dr. Daniel Zaskin, Chf. Diagnostician, Columbia Sch of Dental Surg.
Geoffrey E. Smith, L.D.S., R.C.S. Dental Surgeon.
Philip R- N. Sutton, D.D.Sc., L.D.S., F.R.A.C.D.S.

Brian A. Dementi~ Ph.D. (Biochemistry and Toxicology)
John P. Flaherty, Chief Justice, Supreme Court of Pennsylvania
Simon Beisler, M.D., Chief of Urology, Roosevelt Hosp. N.Y.
Fred Squier, M.D., Head of Oral Surgery, Lenox Hill Hosp. N.Y.
John Garlock, M.D., Consulting Surgeon, Mt. Sinai Hosp. N.Y.

Edgar A. Lawrence, M.D., Dir. of Medicine, Lenox Hill
Girard F. Oberrender, M.D., Dir. of Otolaryngology, Lenox Hill
Frederick B. Exner, M.D. Fellow of the Am. Coll. Of Radiology.
Charles C. Bass, M.D., Dean Emeritus, Tulane Univ. Med. Sch.
Alton Ochsner, M.D., head, Dept of Surgery, Tulane Univ. Med. Sch.

Alfred I Murray, M.S.T. (Chemistry).
Mark Diesendorf, Ph-D. (Mathematics).
John J. Miller, Ph.D. (Biochemistry)
Paul I-L Phillips, Ph.D. (Biochemistry)
Kaj Roholm, M.D., Ph.D. (Biochemistry)

Hubert A. Arnold, Ph.D. (Math) UCDavis
James W. Benfield, A.B., D.D.S., F.A.C.D.
Eugene Peterson, Ph.D. (Chem.Engr.) UCB.
Cornelius Steelink, Prof Erner. Chem.
John Thomson, Ph.D. (Biochemistry)

D. Skinner, B. Sc., MD. C.A.F.C.I.
Richard Marrus, Ph.D. (Physics) UCBerkely
Laura Nader, Ph.D. (Anthropology)UCB
D. W. Hanson, Ph.D. (Chem. Engr.)UCB
C. J. King, Ph.D. (Chem. Engr.)UCB

J. B. Neilands, Ph.D. (Biochemistry)UCB
Giovanni Ames, Ph.D. (Biochem.) UCB
John R. Lee, M.D. (Physician)
J. C. Smart, Ph-D. (Chemistry) UCB
Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D. (Chemistry)
Gerson Jacobs, MD.
Michael F. Ziff, D.D.S..
Harvey Petraborg, MD.

Robert I H. Mick, D.D.S. E. R- Cooper, M.D.
C. T. Betts, D.D.S.
I E. Waters, D.D.S.
Allen London, D.D.S.
Edward A. McLaughlin, M.D.

Philip E. Zafagna, M.D.
George W. Heard, D.D.S.
Charles Dillon, D.D.S., L.D.S.
S. Leslie A. Russell, D.M.D. (dentist)
Casimir R. Sheft, D.D.S.

Jonathan Forman, M.D.
Ross Pringle, D.D.S.
A. B. MacWhimiie, D.D.S.
A.C. Baumann, D.D.S.
Kirk Youngman, D.M.D.

L. A. Alesen, M.D.
Paul W. Sheeran, D.M.D.
Thomas F. Evans, D.D.S.
Robert Davis, D.D.S.
William I Filante, MD.

Joyal W. Taylor, D.D.S.
Michael Ohnstad, D.D.S.
Sheridan B. Manasen, D.D.S
Scott McAdoo, D.D.S.
Tony Lees, B.D.S. Dentl Surgn

Frederick W. Howe, D.D.S.
Ellsworth D. Foreman, D.M.D.
Robert D. Stephan, D.D.S.
Carl Mestman, D.D.S.
Hans Moolenburgh, M.D.

Peter Mansfield, M.D.
William F. Corell, M.D.
F. Logan Stanfield, M.D.
Julian Whitaker, MD.
Robert C. Atkins, M.D.

James A. Paar, M.D.
Kenneth H. Rudolph, M.D.
Jonathan Wright M.D.
John McDougall, MD.
Steven M. Rachlin, M.D.

John R. Lilliendahl, Jr. D.D.S.
Hal A. Huggins, D.D.S.
Herbert H. Robinson, D.D.S.
James P. Hammond, MD.
Philip Sukel, D.D.S.

Deloss E. Winkler, Ph.D. (Chem.)
Andrew Weil, M.D., Health Advocate
Thomas M. DeStefimo, A.B., D.D.S.
Harlee S.Strauss, Ph.D. (Molecular Biology)
Geoffrey Dobbs, Ph.D. (Botony) A.R.C.S.

Frederick I. Scott, B.E., M.S., Chem. Engr.
Thomas D. Hinesly, Prof. of Soil Ecology
Roy E. Hanford, MD. (Phys. and Surgeon)
Stanley Monteith, MD., ret. Ortho. Surgeon.
G. A. Samotjoi, Ph.D. (Chemistry) UCB

Henry Cheung, Ph.D. (Chem. Engr.)Alexis T Bell, Ph.D. (Chem. Engr.)UCB

* Above affiliations are listed for identifications purposes only and do not imply institution endorsement

116 posted on 11/16/2002 11:21:34 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
Everything your Dr. Spence said about fluorine & fluorides could've been said about chlorine & chlorides.

Point me to a source other than you on that.

Check a periodic table in a basic chemistry book. Chlorine, fluorine, bromine, and iodine are all in the same column, meaning that they all have nearly identical chemical properties. We'd better not even go near iodized salt... sea salt is even worse...

161 posted on 11/17/2002 1:52:01 AM PST by exDemMom
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