Bush aide sensed 'Nazi' mood(Woodward: Rove said that 'W" at World Series was like a Nazi Rally)

nypost ^ | November 16, 2002 | By RICHARD JOHNSON with Paula Froelich and Chris Wilson

[KQQL]

PRESIDENTIAL adviser Karl Rove and other members of George W. Bush's administration will have to go into heavy spin control when Bob Woodward's muckraking "Bush at War" hits the stores next week.

The Washington Post reporter was given unheard-of access to top White House aides for the upcoming Simon & Schuster tome, but loose-lipped insiders may soon regret their candor. Excerpts obtained by the Drudge Report contain some of Woodward's revelations.

[lizma]

Karl Rove thought, it's like being at a Nazi rally.

Obviously he missed the Wellstone "memorial".
(That "We will win" chant sent shivers up my spine. Very spooky)

[MWS]

All I can say about this is that we had better get used to these types of accusations being levied against the administration. This is a part of the Democratic strategy to gain back power. They would love to paint the Republican control of the branches of power in this country as being related to Nazi control of Germany. It is the ultimate scare tactic.

Just as a thought, it is quite sad that people forget what Nazism really was like. The character of a Nazi rally was not merely a sign of support for a popular president. It was permeated with hatred and blind devotion and constant saluting in pledge to glorify the leader and to grant him total power. I seriously doubt that the World Series event possessed these characteristics, and therefore I seriously doubt Rove said ANYTHING of the sort.

[SubMareener]

The ability to read minds is particularly useful when one can nolonger find a real source! ;-)

[cricket]

"Excuse me? Is this a direct quote from Rove? If so, why isn't this in quotes? Or is this just what Woodward thinks Rove thought?"

. . .good point; I hope there is some defense, but the damage, deserved or not, will be done (though no matter the context, that 'n' word is a dangerous place to go. . .)

With or without it, a great hatchet job by a 'Rat lackey'. Disgusting.

[stylin_geek]

Powell was also "uncomfortable" with some of Bush's Texan ways: "Bush might order, Go get the guns! Get my horses! - all the Texas, Alamo macho that made Powell uncomfortable. But he believed and hoped the president knew better, that he would see the go-it-alone approach did not stand further analysis."

I might have some disagreements with Colin Powell, but to attribute such tortured useage of the English language to him is ridiculous.

This has all the appearance of a blowhard writer, still living off of a reputation that is overblown, while trying to impress the "ordinary people" with his erudition. At this point, Woodward is the Al Bundy of journalism, trying to maintain his relevance based on something he was involved in 30 years ago. Yep, I surely remember those 4 touchdown, I mean, Watergate, and it makes me stand up and take notice of Bob "Al Bundy" Woodward whenever he speaks.

[CaptainK]

John Edward is astounded at Woodward's ability to read minds, currently functioning or comatose.

[Lee'sGhost]

"More than any other public figure in recent history, this President understands his enemies, and knows how to manipulate them in exceedingly subtle ways."

I had a similar thought. Why does he do it? Because he knows that the more the libs bash him and skew the facts to make him look bad, the more the people get sick of it. I think the last election is part of the proof of that.

I have no doubt that there were comparisons to a Hitler rally -- in the sense that they would be concerned with the visual similarity. In other words, it made them uncomfortable that it looked a little like Hitler and uncomfortable that some @sshole like Woodward would use the similarity to draw a negative comparison. Now, Woodward proves such concern to be legit.

[Miss Marple]

Woodward was granted access for a 5-part series he did for the Washington Post about the days right after 9/11. It ran several months ago and was very positive.

Now that 9/11 has faded, what I believe has happened is that Woodward (prodded no doubt by the Clinton/McAuliffe faction) has taken the same information and embellished it with little Woodwardisms like this Nazi thought, which in my opinion is total fiction. Rove wouldn't think such a thing of a World Series game. He might have remembered the USA/Russia hockey game, but not a Nazi rally! And is he thought it, he wouldn't have said it to anyone!

Now, since Dana Milbank's sole purpose on the Washington Post is to manufacture hit pieces on the President, and considering that the Clintons are envious of the President's success, and considering that it was known that Woodward was writing a book, and considering that the publisher is Clinton's publisher, I don't think it is hard to see what happened.

[Semper Paratus]

More than any other public figure in recent history, this President understands his enemies, and knows how to manipulate them in exceedingly subtle ways.

As Don Corleone said: "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer."

[gitmo]

I'll bet neither Woodward nor Rove has ever been to a Nazi rally.

[Miss Marple]

One thing about this book...I will bet it does NOT sell as well as Bill Sammon's book, Fighting Back.

Those of us who are Bush supporters are not going to buy the book, and the liberals won't buy it because they don't want to read about the war, so we are left with a very, very tiny market niche for Mr. Woodward.

I hope Sammon's book is on the best-seller list for months, and that Woodward has to see that list every week while his book sits in the cellar.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Me, too. Ray Bradbury couldn't havbe written a story that ended with the Wellstone Funeral.
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"Wellstone Funeral" has now entered the vernacular as a synonym for unintended consequences.

[Sci Fi Guy]

Excuse me? Is this a direct quote from Rove? If so, why isn't this in quotes? Or is this just what Woodward thinks Rove thought?

It sounds like all the people standing with their arms outstreached briefly reminded Rove of the old nazi rallies where they did the nazi salute. Yawn! This really sounds like they are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

[Ole Okie]

The "Heil" sign should be reservered for me Hitlery thought. New Yorkers are mein.

What? Are you telling us that the title to Hitlery's new book will be "Mein Kampf"?

[Semper Paratus]

One thing about this book...I will bet it does NOT sell as well as Bill Sammon's book, Fighting Back.

Woodwards books should be listed under Science Fiction.

[hellinahandcart]

That was a great moment. Only someone like Bob Woodward would find it sinister. Am I really supposed to believe Rove was reminded of a NAZI rally? Give me a friggin' break.

REality check time. The crowd cheered for Bush. That was good, especially after all the speculation by the media that Bush just might get himself booed. But it was the Yankees who really brought the house down, which is also good. And as it should be. It was a baseball game. It was the World Series.

In fact, there was a game-winning home run that night or the next, during which I really feared the upper deck was going to come down. I could see it moving on television!

And so what if Woodward was freaked out by "15000 fans" returning the thumbs-up gesture. The stadium holds close to 60,000.

[Oldeconomybuyer]

The RATS always need to personalize politics because they cannot win arguments based on policy -- they have no policy initiatives.

Like Newt in the 90's, I look for Rove and Lay to be their targets over the next two years with the willing assistance of "journalism" like this book.

[vnix]

I said before that Bush is a master strategist. I think he allows the most assenine and hateful reporters interviews because he uses it for his own benefit. Now watch this. When Bush speaks, he does it in a way that everyone understands him. He doesn't use words that people don't understand. Watch his body language too. He's very intense and you can tell he's truly authentic. People can see into him and feel like he actually is there for the people rather than the power. (slick willy). I think especially after 9/11 people feel more secure that he's the President as opposed to Klinton. But I think the most important thing that people like about him is that he'll tell you what he's gonna do and he keeps his word. That is part of what defines a person's character. Did you ever notice that Bush has never once referred to the Clinton administration as the source of the problems we have today. Clinton always blamed Bush sr. But W. seems to be the kind of MAN that deals with what's at hand and not wasting time fingerpointing. Me thinks he was raised right. Must've had good parents.

[Doc Savage]

I went to high school with this moron. He was a teacher suck-up then and a slime ball. A geek. Why on earth after this jerk's hit books on Casey and the Supremes would you ever give him unlimited access????????????????????????/

[AmishDude]

I wonder if Powell or Rove can sue for this. Not that they'll win, but it would publicly force Woodward to say he made it up out of thin air.