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"Harry Potter"
Ayn rand Institute ^ | 11/13/02

Posted on 11/15/2002 2:23:23 PM PST by RJCogburn

The movie adventures of child-wizard Harry Potter will continue on November 15. Far from being an agent of the occult, as his critics contend, Harry Potter is the kind of hero children should be encouraged to read about and emulate, said the executive director of the Ayn Rand Institute.

"It is true that Harry lives in a magical, fantastical world, but what's important is that he is a hero who wins through intelligence, effort and courage," said Dr. Yaron Brook. "Throughout the series, Harry has developed his talents through hard work and has learned to think for himself, to be honest and to be self-confident. He has friends who share his values and he earns the respect of his teachers. Aren't these the character traits all parents want their children to possess? I know they're qualities I actively try to instill in my two boys."

Dr. Brook said that the critics' focus on the supernatural aspects of the Harry Potter stories is completely non-essential. What is fundamental is the abstract meaning being conveyed during the course of Harry's magical adventures. "The books are, in short, fuel for a child's maturing mind. As vitamins and minerals are essential to a child's healthy physical development, so literature with this view of the world is essential to a child's healthy mental development."


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To: Jael
If you want to talk to some real witches, and ask them if they are real or not, go here.

Great. You can also ask my co-worker about his career in the SEALS. He'll spin yarns for you of his classified training, covert ops, and combat heroics. Maybe he has even come to believe some of it himself after years of repetition and embellishment.

It still doesn't change the basic fact that regardless of what he may say or believe, he WASN'T A SEAL. The words coming from his mouth are just that. Words.

I have no doubt that some people may believe that they are actual witches. That they believe, or claim to, doesn't make it so.

261 posted on 11/15/2002 8:19:18 PM PST by Denver Ditdat
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To: Jael
You're consistently avoiding the question. What evidence do you have that witchcraft is real? Why has it never been scientifically demonstrated?
262 posted on 11/15/2002 8:19:33 PM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: HairOfTheDog
One of the Witches wants to know why you would think it isn't real. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/789874/posts?page=255#255
263 posted on 11/15/2002 8:20:11 PM PST by Jael
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To: Jael
Are you being deliberately obtuse?

I have no cause to believe someone on some internet board somewhere is a witch because they say so. They could tell me they just turned their brother into a frog. Then what have we proved?

My question to you is this. You are a Christian. You believe that witches exist. You believe you know some. Why? What proof have you seen that they possess or can wield actual magic?
264 posted on 11/15/2002 8:20:40 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: CharacterCounts; Jael; All
Give me an example of a real spell.

Word to the wise: it is NOT a good idea to post a spell on FR.

265 posted on 11/15/2002 8:21:31 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: lizma
"But out of curiosity, how many kids didn't go? I'm sorta surprised that there would be a big backlash in Ohio. South Carolina maybe."

Well, I can't say for sure. I know of three students and one teacher who skipped the show.

And never underestimate Ohio.

Time for bed now. Good Night all.

266 posted on 11/15/2002 8:22:03 PM PST by keats5
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To: Jael
All your links require that I log in to see these posts. I have no intention of logging in to that site. Or any site that tries to get me to download Gator.
267 posted on 11/15/2002 8:23:09 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I don't want the actual spell, just a description of what one is.
268 posted on 11/15/2002 8:24:03 PM PST by CharacterCounts
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To: ThinkDifferent
YOu are welcome to come and ask a witch yourself. http://www.network54.com/Hide/Chat/37643
269 posted on 11/15/2002 8:24:08 PM PST by Jael
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To: HairOfTheDog
What proof have you seen that they possess or can wield actual magic?

Hair, I would advise you not to get too close to that stuff. You might find out the hard way what demons can do. No frogs into princes to be sure.

270 posted on 11/15/2002 8:25:22 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Word to the wise: it is NOT a good idea to post a spell on FR.

Yea, post it on DU and give us a link...

271 posted on 11/15/2002 8:26:15 PM PST by null and void
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To: Jael
You aren't listening.
272 posted on 11/15/2002 8:26:33 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Jael
"In the Harry Potter books, the main ‘muggles’ are ‘The Dursleys’ who are very cruel to Harry and are continually ‘putting him down’"

You haven't read the books at all have you??? Shame on you. A sorta bearing false witness thing.

If you read the stories you would know Harry respects "muggles" and Dursley aspect of his life is to highlight how he rose beyond his mistreatment. He didn't do the "victim" scenario, it made his character stronger.

273 posted on 11/15/2002 8:26:47 PM PST by lizma
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To: HairOfTheDog
you can sign in as a guest, just ignore the pop ups. they are real witches.
274 posted on 11/15/2002 8:27:48 PM PST by Jael
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To: keats5
To teach a child that witches can be good sends the opposite message.

Not quite. For instance, in one scene Harry Potter is alone with Professor Dumbledore and Harry asks if he should have been in Slytherin. (one of the four groups in which students are sorted) When Harry asked this he was according to the book, looking desparately at Professor Dumbledore. See Slytherin is composed of those, more mean, bullying and those that 'go bad'.

Dumbledore answers 'The Sorting Hat placed you in Gryffindor. You know why that was. Think."

Harry: "It only put me in Gryffindor because I asked NOT to be placed in Slytherin."

Dumbledore: "Exactly. It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities.

Harry CHOSE/desired NOT to be placed with the 'bad guys'. He CHOSE/wanted to be placed among the 'good guys'. Choices. It's about making the proper choices in our lives and they POINT THIS OUT IN THE BOOK AND MOVIE.

If one is only receptive to bad then I guess that is all that that person will see....... but there is much good if one reads or watches with an open mind, and heart. Let us not forget that the Spirit works in mysterious ways.

275 posted on 11/15/2002 8:28:08 PM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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To: Jael; HairOfTheDog
Back up your entire hard disk first, if you do. I don't trust Windows. Witchcraft and Windows even less so.
276 posted on 11/15/2002 8:28:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I believe in evil. I believe there are people with dark angry hearts. I believe in wickedness. But I do not believe that they have supernatural power. I do not believe that people can cast spells.
277 posted on 11/15/2002 8:29:16 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I am. YOu can post questions to some real witches at www.nola.com, in the religion forum. Or al.com in the religion forum
278 posted on 11/15/2002 8:29:25 PM PST by Jael
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To: greasyHeart
...the up-lifting story of a half dozen high school girls taking money matters into their own hands...

You mean to tell me there was a plot to that film?

I'll have to watch it again and pay closer attention!

Yup, that's what I'm gonna do. Watch it again until I get it right.

279 posted on 11/15/2002 8:32:16 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You might find out the hard way what demons can do

And that would be what exactly?

280 posted on 11/15/2002 8:32:54 PM PST by ThinkDifferent
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