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To: SoothingDave
Of course you are. Nativists are often frigthened by things they do not understand

One, did you even read what I said - not that I can see. And two, I understand the Catholic Church all too well. Appearances are everything and more substantive and meaningful at times than the truth - alla shuffling abusive priests and gagging those in the know in order to maintain the illusion of the "holiness of the church". The Church has a long and demonstrated history of what it is capable of. But that was not my point. Leave it to you to be distracted by a point that isn't being made in favor of one you'd rather argue.

No extra US based government has any right to influence US public policy. This is a Sovereign nation. I'm merely stating the obvious - which you take offense at for some odd reason in pretense that your church is lilly-white and unsullied by such things as meddling and unrighteous acts and proclaimations I'd presume. An absurdity in and of itself; but, again, it's beside the point.

Then, you mistate me (the which I am used to). I never said abortion was good or bad in this argument did I. My stance on it, is however, well known to my knowledge - it's a sin against God. Just because the Catholic church agrees on a moral basis is no cause for celebration that they know from whence they speak. Catholic Meddling in US policy is a threat to US sovereinty, or perhaps it's no little thing that the Chinese should be meddling in matters of national security - they have views on national security so what they have to say must bear on our Soveriegn laws..

And as far as who she represents. You missed the point altogether and are begging the question. your last question before you asked it. A Republic is Majority rule with Minority protection.

218 posted on 11/18/2002 7:37:38 PM PST by Havoc
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To: Havoc
You forget that the Catholics who are trying to influnce American policy are American citizens, but as far as that is concerned, every government with an embassy in Washington is also trying to influence American policy. That includes Israel, whose lobby is now accused by some liberals of having fatally affected American policy in the Middle East.
220 posted on 11/18/2002 8:09:22 PM PST by RobbyS
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