[laredo44]

They accept death and illness as part of the equation...which also includes my picking up part of the tab for their health care costs one way or another.

So, is your beef with smokers, or those compelling you to pick up the health costs?

[RWG]

I did finish with: But maybe that isn't true anymore, wasn't that what the big tobacco settlement was all about, yeah, that's it.

For the most part a beef with smokers, or those compelling us all to pick up the health costs are one and the same, or they are the relatives of smokers who won't bear the costs for their own families like dashole whose poor mother can barely survive on her social security.