Meet the Losertarians!

The American Enterprise ^ | November 14, 2002 | Michael Medved

[The Green Goblin]

Dante is generally credited with the statement that "the hottest circles in hell are reserved for those who in times of moral crisis maintain their neutrality." In the wake of the recent elections, we should reserve some space in those inflammatory precincts for those who in time of moral crisis--and hand-to-hand political combat--cast meaningless votes for Losertarians.

Michael Medved wants to send us to Hell for exercising our right to vote our conscience!

[End Times Sentinel]

I'm not a libertarian, but if the Republican Candidates would adopt some of the libertarian's issues such as violently slashing taxes, eliminating the Department of Education, and taking a literal translation of the Constitution, maybe they'd get those libertarian ballots.  Maybe the ballots of a lot of apathetic Republicans too.

Owl_Eagle

" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"

[Egregious Philbin]

Over at DU they vilify the Green Party in exactly the same way - their platform is silly, they're stealing votes from our candidates...

Here in Massachusetts the two other parties widened the debate in the governor's race and the Libertarian party nearly got their ballot question passed. The two candidates (and a third Independent) addressed several issues the two mainstream candidates didn't want to talk about. Both candidates were serious people, there wasn't anything "silly" about them running.

[breakem]

"America's Libertarian Party services only one purpose: Distracting and confusing the determined combatants in all our critical national struggles."

The first sentence is so stupid, whay read anymore?

[End Times Sentinel]

Paging Willie Green... Paging Willie Green...

Owl_Eagle

" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"

[xrp]

Ok, so how does someone smoking a joint in their house violate your civil rights? Exactly! It doesn't!

How does someone paying someone else for sex violate your civil rights? Exactly! It doesn't!

By wanting that outlawed, YOU are enforcing YOUR morals upon me, using the lethal force of the Imperial Federal Government.

BTW, marriage and dating are two forms of prostitution just by different names.

[WashingtonCollegeofLaw]

Why not just pony up and say that the republican candidate lost because the democratic candidate got more votes? I get tired of hearing that libertarians cost elections. If by some miracle the entire republican voter base was motivated and had 100% turnout, and the republican candidate still lost, then, and only then could the blame even possible fall on libertarians. And even though, i was under teh assumption that we live in a democracy where i can vote for whoever i want. Im sorry that i dont agree 100% with the republican party. Maybe if the Republicans had motivated 600 more registered republican voters to go out and vote, we wouldnt be having this discussion. Let the derrogatory "drug induced militia lovers" comments begin. Not all libertarians are wackos, i for one consider myself to be libertarian largely because i feel that the war on drugs has failed and the money spent could be put to better use and because i feel that social welfare is unconstitutional. To those who would bash libertarians, if we are supposedly so insignificant, why does it upset you so if we vote for a libertarian candidate?

[f.Christian]

libertarian trolls.

on the fr---wow!

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Why this arrogant baseline assumption that Libertarian candidates 'steal' votes from the GOP?? Presumptive idiocy.

I remember when the Republicans and their followers were cheering on Nader because he was drawing votes away from Gore.

Utter, rank hypocrisy....for Republicans to somehow get angry at voters for not voting for THEIR entitled candidate of choice makes them no better than the DemocRats.

[Naspino]

That and this "CONSERVATIVE" board is full of libertarian posters. Listen I switched from the Democratic party to the Green party after the Democrats failure to appeal to my extreme leftist position and I told all my Democratic friends to do the same and sent them the link to the Green party website. I suggest all of you other discouraged Democrats do the same with your friends. In 2004 lets stand on PRINCIPLE not common sense!

Don't flame me if you don't understand the humor in what I've written. Just accept it as humor and move on.

[My2Cents]

Someone will invariably post a comment that voting Libertarian is simply voting one's conscience...as if one's conscience requires them to throw away their votes, which is what voting Libertarian results in.

In the Libertarian mindset, there is no room for pragmaticism. I doubt the Republican Party represents 100% of what anyone wants it to represent -- everyone is going to have an issue with something in the Republican Party. But the issue is this: Practically speaking, there are only two viable parties in this country. If you don't want Democrats elected, one needs to vote Republican.

If I agree with Republicans more often than not, I'm satisfied, because I agree with the Democrats about 0% of the time, and even if I could swallow what the Democrats were serving, they are such a corrupt and bankrupt political institution, they should be opposed for that reason alone. "Voting one's conscience" without acknowledging the consequences that failure to vote for the only real alternative to the Democrats isn't noble -- it's irresponsible.

[John Lenin]

Most Repressivecans barely understand what guidelines that set out for a MUCH smaller and less powerful central federal government

Give me a call when Libertarians win anything but a token seat here or there. Your base is made up mostly of drug addicts and wackos.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Bump (to read when my life returns to normal). I love Michael Medved...most of the time.

[monday]

This kind of article always makes me shake my head. The funny thing that people like Medved don't realize is that perhaps 75% of Libertarians hold their noses and vote Republican nearly every election.

Even though we see little difference in the tax and spend authoritarian impulses of the Republicans or the Democrats, we usually will vote for the lesser of two evils so as not to waste our vote. Guys like Medved make us wonder why we bother.

[My2Cents]

Your points are well-taken. But I would say that Jesse Ventura's success in Minnesota was due more to the fact he was Jesse Ventura than to the fact he was the Reform Party candidate. John Doe, running as a Reform candidate, would have gotten nowhere.

[Anitius Severinus Boethius]

It's just such a damn shame that the Repressivecans message didn't appeal to the 3000 some voters in South Dakota. Maybe if it had, they would have voted for the Repressivecan candidate :)

By appealing to those 3,000 voters, they would have alienated 30,000 voters. Libertarians cannot, will not, are incapable of accepting the fact that the vast, vast majority of the populous do not agree with them. So instead of making progress towards their principles where and when they can, they prefer to have "purity" in their principle and vote for candidates that cannot progress their principles. "Purity before Progress"

[markfiveFF]

Possibly because Libertarians take a consistent small gov't position and the GOP claims to be the party of small gov't.

If the Republicans had cut the rate of federal government growth, maybe the Libertarians and/or a few more conservatives would have voted for Thune. The fact is that the rate of federal spending has increased in the 2001-2002 period. If the Republicans would defund the Left, at least 100 billion could be cut from the budget.

[tpaine]

Congrats on your new medications. You seem a bit more lucid today.

[GOP_1900AD]

Who represses more? The Rightists or the Leftists? You want to go back to Hitlery and Bubba? That's why you and your ilk are losers. Most Libertarians are 1960s hippies who discovered that they still love dope and free sex, but don't like paying taxes. Or, if younger, you have been indoctrinated into these patterns by the hippies. Most of you are cultural extreme Liberals, geopolitically naive, and marginally Rightist on economic and governing matters. That makes you overall Leftists in my book.

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]