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[Muslim] Speaker: All Muslims could take up arms if U.S. aggressor [Bring it, Mohammed]
Greely Tribune ^ | 11/14/02 | Julio Ochoa

Posted on 11/14/2002 7:56:05 AM PST by 1bigdictator

Speaker: All Muslims could take up arms if U.S. aggressor Story By Julio Ochoa Posted on Thursday, November 14 @ 02:50:26 EST (54 reads)

If the United States starts a war with Iraq as an aggressor, it may end up fighting a war with Muslims from many other countries, an Islamic speaker said Wednesday. Mohammed Jodah, a board member of the Interfaith Alliance of Colorado and an authority on Islam, spoke to a group of University of Northern Colorado students at the Monfort College of Business.

The students asked Jodah to lecture for their Life of the Mind class, which studies violence in all major religions.

Jodah told the class there are three circumstances in which believers of Islam can bear arms and fight: self-defense, to help another nation to remove an aggressor or if it is declared by the head of the state.

“If Iraq comes under American attack and Iraq makes a call for Muslim people, no governments of other countries will go, but Muslim people may go to help other Muslims,” Jodah said. “This is part of the faith and belief to go and help other Muslims if they come under aggression.”

During the Persian Gulf War, when Kuwait came under attack from Iraq, Muslims from Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Morocco went and fought on behalf of Kuwait because Iraq was an aggressor, he said.

“In the Islamic faith, the Muslim people are one nation, regardless of nationality,” Jodah said.

Jodah visited Iraq in January 2000 on an American diplomatic mission and saw Iraqi citizens living in misery.

“Here is a country that is under economic embargo for 11 or 12 years,” he said. “The people are suffering.”

For the United States to attack without knowing whether Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction would be wrong, Jodah said.

“There would be no justification for war and it would make the suffering of Iraqi people even worse,” he said.

He would rather see the United States give the full time and confidence to weapons inspectors to do their work, without the looming threat of war.

The class’s professor, Thomas Simon, gave the class a challenge of how to best present Islam in a public setting.

“They had many ideas, but this is what they settled on and it seemed to work the best,” Simon said.

Jodah spent most of the lecture giving the students an understanding of Islam and devoted the end of the lecture to terrorism and questions from the crowd.

Students, such as Pierre Houssney, a 20-year-old junior, questioned the promotion of violence in Islamic religion.

“Muslims are only allowed to kill in self-defense, yet look how far the Islamic world reaches,” Houssney said. “How did it reach there? Historically the answer is by the sword.”

What’s next

University of Northern Colorado Professor Thomas Simon will give a speech titled “Terrorism, Fear and Morality” at 7 p.m. Wednesday at the college’s University Center, 10th Avenue and 20th Street, Greeley.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: america; muslims
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To: 1bigdictator
The class’s professor, Thomas Simon, gave the class a challenge of how to best present Islam in a public setting.

And they came up with......TREASON DURING WARTIME. I'd think twice before hiring a graduate of this school.

21 posted on 11/14/2002 8:21:21 AM PST by mondonico
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To: 1bigdictator
"Mohammed Jodah, a board member of the Interfaith Alliance of Colorado and an authority on Islam,"

From the way he talks, I would assume he's got a shadow or two these days (hint hint, FBI, CIA)

22 posted on 11/14/2002 8:21:49 AM PST by goodnesswins
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To: TLBSHOW; Stand Watch Listen
It's impossible to balance this ledger. The Muslim world continues to commit atrocities around the globe and the EU, UN and socialized journalist view this activity through rose colored glasses where Muslims are the victim. The civilized world is losing the P.R. war against militant Islam. A daily accounting of Muslim atrocities around the globe should be on the front page of every newspaper here and in Europe. These are the only relevant statistics.
23 posted on 11/14/2002 8:23:08 AM PST by 1bigdictator
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To: 1bigdictator
The class’s professor, Thomas Simon, gave the class a challenge of how to best present Islam in a public setting...

We all know how Islam presents itself in a public setting. The gaping hole in lower Manhattan is but one example among many.

24 posted on 11/14/2002 8:27:47 AM PST by rickmichaels
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To: 1bigdictator
Good, get them all in one spot at one time.
25 posted on 11/14/2002 8:29:24 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Sparta
Indeed. Just get DuPont and Monsanto rolling on producing large quantities of "Islamicides". . . spray area, remove Islam. . . .Kills Jihad dead, guaranteed. . . .
26 posted on 11/14/2002 8:31:58 AM PST by Salgak
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To: 1bigdictator
These porkies don't really know what they are getting themselves into do they?
27 posted on 11/14/2002 8:32:03 AM PST by hgro
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To: Salgak
"I am stuck on napalm, 'cause napalm's stuck on me!"
28 posted on 11/14/2002 8:32:58 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: 1bigdictator
“In the Islamic faith, the Muslim people are one nation, regardless of nationality,” Jodah said.

Interesting point, that.

29 posted on 11/14/2002 8:34:52 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: 1bigdictator
"If the United States starts a war with Iraq as an aggressor, it may end up fighting a war with Muslims from many other countries, an Islamic speaker said Wednesday"

"In war there is no substitute for victory" General Douglas MacArthur said years ago.

Still works for me today.

30 posted on 11/14/2002 8:36:10 AM PST by KriegerGeist
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To: 1bigdictator
Hussein's regime is only loosely based on Islam. Why would all Muslims go to war to protest the overthrow of a secular dictator? I thought religion was the issue.
31 posted on 11/14/2002 8:37:18 AM PST by PLK
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To: PLK
Muslims don't grasp western logic or any manner of reasoning for that matter. While the Iraqi dictator is secular, and no friend to Islamists, both parties view the west as a greater evil and obstacle to their respective goals. So they will cooperate in matters of destroying anything symbolic of non-Islamic interests.
32 posted on 11/14/2002 8:43:50 AM PST by 1bigdictator
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To: ricer1
Exactly.

American Muslims threaten the lives of Americans, and the Multiculturalists swoon.
33 posted on 11/14/2002 8:44:55 AM PST by Guillermo
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To: 1bigdictator
“In the Islamic faith, the Muslim people are one nation, regardless of nationality,” Jodah said

Borg.

Time to stamp out this collectivist cancer before it spreads.

34 posted on 11/14/2002 8:55:56 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: 1bigdictator
I sincerely hope they carry through with that threat. It will be the end of Islam in the Western world. I am really tired of hearing their boasts and threats. All I see are a bunch of mongrel dogs who indiscriminately kill non-combatants and run at the first sign of combat with hardened soldiers.
35 posted on 11/14/2002 8:57:58 AM PST by MoGalahad
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To: 1bigdictator
Read my mind muslim/islam fleas. If I write it I'll sound like a war mongering, hate spewing, ignorant crazy bastard and probably get banded
37 posted on 11/14/2002 9:28:07 AM PST by paul51
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To: 1bigdictator
“Here is a country that is under economic embargo for 11 or 12 years,” he said. “The people are suffering.”

As a result of a war they started.

For the United States to attack without knowing whether Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction would be wrong, Jodah said.

So, if he has them it is okay to attack, right?

“There would be no justification for war and it would make the suffering of Iraqi people even worse,” he said.

If the Iraqi people dislike the boat they are in they should choose a new captain. And again, they started a war, lost, and were given terms.

He would rather see the United States give the full time and confidence to weapons inspectors to do their work, without the looming threat of war.

Tried that already. Iraqi failed to cooperate under the terms of the cease-fire.

38 posted on 11/14/2002 9:38:27 AM PST by The Toad
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To: 1bigdictator
Religious and law-abiding Muslims would do well to avoid such folly. To rise up in arms against millions of "infidels" who have done nothing against them would obliterate any Islam's claim of being a "Religion of Peace."

Giving one's enemies an excuse for launching and completing a holocaust is a very bad career move that is akin to drawing down on the Lone Ranger or throwing a pecan pie at Superman.

History, sadly, often does repeat itself, and it is the innocent and humble who end up paying the price -- on both sides of such a conflict.....

39 posted on 11/14/2002 9:39:32 AM PST by tracer
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To: Sparta
Russia conquered a third of Turkey before the Civil War. The first Balkan Wars, Sudanese Christian militia is winning. Russia defeated the Uzebecks and annexed them in the early 1910's. The Soviets smacked down various Islamics in the central asian portions and gave 1 million Afghans their just rewards. India smacked the Pakies around several times. The French lost Algeria...well, you can't win them all and they are the French. British and French helped Isreal in the Suez Canal Crisis. Welp, time to add more.
40 posted on 11/14/2002 9:40:44 AM PST by Stavka2
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