Democrat Senator: "Our Party Needs To Embrace Tax Cuts. . ."

Wall Street Journal ^ | Nov 14, 2002 | Sen. ZELL MILLER

[The Raven]

Why did the Democratic Party lose so badly last week?

It's simple. We didn't give people any real reason to vote for us and we gave them far too many reasons to vote against us. We set ourselves up to be taken down by a popular president who figured out a way to exploit both of those weaknesses.

[thingumbob]

Hitlery's probably already putting Zell's name on the "The List".

Are you kidding......Hitlery has probably already mounted Zell's picture on the wall for dart throwing purposes until her voodoo doll comes in the mail.

Memo to Zell: "Don't get into any private jets anytime soon."

[Redleg Duke]

These are the words of a very dangerous man...a prime candidate for Arkancide!

Commissar Pelosi will not stand for this!

Commissar Daschel would call this article "OUTRAGEOUS...OUTRAGEOUS!"

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

putting Zell's name on the "The List"

. . . would be an exercise in futility if the Governor of Ga is now an (R). At least, will be in January . . .

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

the media has become the biggest obstacle to the dem's getting a new message out.......and HOW SWEET IT IS!

IMHO the analysis of "the media" is best done piecewise.

In the first instance journalism is the branch of entertainment devoted to attacking politicians from the left. That is the business model that works in journalism. The same paper might have a conservative editorial page, but the front page of any general-interest newspaper will be negative and superficial--thus anticonservative.

Talk radio exists to fill the niche of conservative commentary which is left wide open--nay, created--by the fact that "objectivity" is merely a codeword for PC concensus liberalism. All talk radio does is free conservatives from the demoralization of hearing only negativity on-air. The superficial among us hear only the superficial negativity of journalism, and therefore lean left.

There is no obstacle to the Democrats' getting their message out. Provided of course that they have a coherent message . . .

[OldFriend]

Have you had an opportunity to hear some of the leftist talk show hosts.....such as Ellen Ratner, Richard Bey, and assorted other kooks around the country. They are rabid, no other word for it. Add that to the likes of Rather, Jennings and their cohorts and you find no sane person on the left in any media forum.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

They don't want rich people who don't vote Democrat and toe the party line. The Dems are full of "rich" snobs. Some of their leaders are extremely rich.

Contrary to Democratic propaganda, the Republican Party is the party of the middle class. The red/blue map will show that the Democratic Party is the party of not only the poor but of the patronizing rich.

[BibChr]

has become a party that stands for nothing and does nothing

Not true! The Democratic Party stands for --

• Tearing living babies limb from limb and/or poisoning them and/or burning them to death, if they prove inconvenient or imperfect AT ANY TIME during the first nine months of their lives
• Sheltering actual racists — if they are powerful Democrats
• Sheltering rapists — if they are powerful Democrats
• Sheltering accused felons — if they are powerful Democrats
• Sheltering abusers of their office — if they are powerful Democrats
• Sheltering abusers of underlings — if they are powerful Democrats
• Sheltering witness-tamperers — if they are powerful Democrats
• Sheltering rapists — if they are powerful Democrats
• Sheltering traitors — if they are powerful Democrats
• Breaking laws openly — if they favor Democrat power
• Calling pervert-duets "married couples"
• Enabling Sociatlists — if they are powerful Democrats

Heavens, I could go on and on. But no, Senator Miller, you're wrong: the Democratic Party stands for and does a lot!

Dan

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

leftist talk show hosts . . . are rabid, no other word for it . . . you find no sane person on the left in any media forum

because, as I pointed out, the niche of liberal propaganda broadcasting is filled with Objective^TM journalism.

Anything to the left of that is inevitably off-the-wall.

[wayoverontheright]

• And why in Heaven's name can't our party be for real tax cuts? In the middle of a recession, the Democrats once had a president who passed a massive tax-cut package. His name was John F. Kennedy. Today, in the middle of a recession, we should be a party advocating for more tax cuts, not less. But we aren't.

Any party that is capable of fighting the partial privatization of social security and is convinced that Clinton's tax increase brought us prosperity, but Bush's tax cuts caused the recession, demonstrates that its only core belief is SOCIALISM!

[sweetliberty]

If he ran for president as a democrat we'd have something to worry about. Won't happen though. He is far too honest and straightforward to be taken seriously by the Rat party.

[sweetliberty]

"4 RATS jumped ship in GA state senate.............."

I just love that mental image. Reminds me of something from a sci-fi movie dealing with a rat infestation. Hehehe...

[wayoverontheright]

Zell talks a lot about Kennedy. Apparently, when you become a governor you lose sight of national politics in some way.

HELLO!EARTH TO ZELL!

The democratic party is now a socialist party which doesn't resemble in any way the party of pre-Clinton times.

[sweetliberty]

"I resent the notion that we need to spread big government into all of America where it would only have room to grow and control our lives"

That was my reaction too. I don't agree with Godel's post that Miller was implying that control should be given back to the state and local governments.

The other one that made my skin crawl was the "universal preschool" geared toward learning. When I was in grade school I remember being taught that in communist countries such as Russia (at that time) that children were taken from their parents at a very early age and put in centralized learning centers where they were cared for and essentially indoctrinated by the state. It created a frighteningly cold image in my mind, one that I could never have imagined existing here, and yet this "proposal" seems to be suggesting exactly that; of course under the guise of "providing a service" to working parents and "giving the children a headstart on education".

Still, all in all, this degree of straightforwardness about their goals would at least let people know what they are really about thereby giving them a clear choice. Of course, I suspect as Rush said yesterday, they know that they can't be honest about their socialist agenda because it would be a complete turn off to the majority of Americans and wouldn't be a way for them to regain the reins of power which is their most fundamental agenda.

[Deb]

You got that right.

(PS: saw "TTT" Sunday night...too much Gollum, not enough Gimli.)

[BibChr]

Dearest Deb:

1. Of course there wasn't enough Gimli. There's never enough Gimli! That's a given. So few recognize who the Real Center of the Story is. (c;
2. You're killing me. You know that, don't you? Killing me.
3. We just bought, and are making our way through, the Extended Edition. Looking forward to the increased Gimlitude.
4. Did I mention — you're killing me!
5. Matthew had a great Eagle Scout ceremony last Tuseday.
6. If I told him, it'd kill him, too!

The late,
Dan