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To: Willie Green
I have absolutely no understanding of those who seemingly define their faith in terms of what's "wrong" with somebody else's.

While I have no malice toward Catholics and I respect them highly (well at least the really faithful ones) I do think that Catholics are just as prone to and have just as much right to doctrinally pick apart others' religions as the rest of us. In fact, don't Catholics believe that they are the only ones who are saved? Isn't that as offensive an attitude as what Christians are saying against Islam? I happen to disagree with that teaching (of course, I'm not Catholic!), but I'm not going to argue unless someone really wants to have a *discussion* about it. The saved Catholics will find out in the end, and I'm sure they won't be upset over it then.

164 posted on 11/16/2002 1:46:26 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: Terriergal
and have just as much right to doctrinally pick apart others' religions as the rest of us.

I'm sure there are many who do.
Catholics are normal people like everybody else,
But in my personal experience, it is not something that is entwined in the practice of our faith,
Perhaps it is an attitude of "confidence" as the world's largest and "original" Christian denomination.
We simply feel no need to define our beliefs in terms of comparison to some other religion.
Many other Cristian denominations seem to always teach their particular brand of Christianity with the preface: we're different than Catholics THIS way, or we're differenct than Catholics THAT way.
Sometimes I just want to shreik: quit telling me how you're different from Catholics and just plain focus on saying what it is that YOU believe.

In fact, don't Catholics believe that they are the only ones who are saved?

No, as with everything in the Catholic faith, it gets a bit more complex than that.
Trying to keep it simple, you do need to understand that the Catholic Church considers itself to be the one TRUE Church, and that the very term "Catholic" means "universal". The Church also recognizes only one Baptism for the forgiveness of Sin. With that as a starting point, the Church generally recognizes Protestants more like "prodigal children" of various degrees, who have not yet returned, rather than non-baptized "pagans". In a weird way, Protestants are viewed as Catholics who don't realize they are Catholics. Baptism is necessary for salvation, and most Protestant baptisms are recognized as valid - "rebaptism" isn't necessary for "conversion" and "conversion" isn't necessary for salvation.

That's the nutshell version with which I'm sure many would quibble with. I really don't want to get involved in a more detailed discussion of it. But if your truly interested, it's explained thoroughly in the Catholic Catechism -- available online and as a paperback in any of the well known national chain bookstores.

174 posted on 11/16/2002 2:41:43 PM PST by Willie Green
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