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To: tarawa
I think it's important we keep this in perspective.

These are individuals who espouse the destruction of personal liberty and freedom for the sake of some nebulous collective, at the fiat of the state.

They are not to be euphamistically written off as nice, yet misguided folk. They truly represent a horrific, socialist philosophy which seeks complete control of the individual.

The best one can do is to try to enlighten them.
17 posted on 11/13/2002 4:04:31 PM PST by galt-jw
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To: galt-jw
It is sometimes VERY hard to do the right thing. I was tortured mentally today, because I found I could not equivocate on an issue with someone that is very close to me. I have to either do the right thing and please God, or "get along" and please the person.

I Love God.

19 posted on 11/13/2002 4:06:56 PM PST by ImaGraftedBranch
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To: galt-jw
Talk about cognitive dissonance, many of the Liberals I know conduct their own lives by adhering to conservative principles. They work hard, they discipline their kids and make them work hard. They are level-even hard-headed in business decisions. And they make tons of money and try every trick in the book, and a few that ain't, to cut their tax bill. One or two live in gated communities with alarms and armed response.

But publicly and politically, they are to the left of Trotsky, and snicker loudly every time they pass my gun rack. Limousine Liberals, they call them in NYC. And they are yellow-dog democrats who would prefer a night with Hillary at a $1,000 a plate to going to heaven and visiting Mother Teresa. Go figure.

21 posted on 11/13/2002 4:18:38 PM PST by Francohio
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To: galt-jw
These are individuals who espouse the destruction of personal liberty and freedom for the sake of some nebulous collective, at the fiat of the state.

They are not to be euphamistically written off as nice, yet misguided folk. They truly represent a horrific, socialist philosophy which seeks complete control of the individual.

Exactly so. The truth of the matter is that these are monsters, and they should be treated as such. Quoting the author of the article, "The end result of trying to create Heaven on earth is tyranny – that is, Hell on earth." When history is so clear as to the outcome, all one can conclude is that those who advocate such ideas are either ignorant, evil or insane.

The best one can do is to try to enlighten them.

You can't enlighten those who lack the price of admission to any sort of reasonable debate: that is, a respect for facts, logic and the principle of cause and effect and a healthy regard for the truth. You can't reason with those whose final 'argument' is the barrel of a gun and the gulag. And if we follow that line of thought to its conclusion.... The end result of trying to create Heaven on earth is tyranny – that is, Hell on earth.

24 posted on 11/13/2002 4:21:12 PM PST by Noumenon
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