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To: who_would_fardels_bear
My own experience working with H1B folks has been generally negative. However, I don't necessarily think that it is the fault of the H1Bs.

I generally have no ill will against those who are H1-B workers. They are simply coming here in response to lies told to them that there is an abundance of jobs here that either can't be filled or that lazy Americans simply don't want to apply for them..

They eventually canned all the folks with nothing getting done. And it only cost our lame-o dot.com company about $1,000,000! One of the cheaper mistakes they made.

Another executive blunder, one of MANY blunders made by those who sit in judgement of us and deny us employment.

145 posted on 11/13/2002 9:48:08 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
I don't blame you for getting pissed and showing a bit of attitude as bvw does.

What people said about how managers throw programmer labor downt he drain is soooo true. Since I got in programming 8 years ago I've always been impressed that when I go to conferences or programmer club meetings a lot of the top programmers when they talk around other programmers will talk in a matter-of-fact way that their managers frequently squander huge amounts of money by just managing the programming personnel and projects badly. Some of the top programmers like to get in front of an audience and ridicule the managers. I'm like that too because on the big projects I worked on there was always a manager that I had to fight tooth and nail so that he would let me succeed in the job. I ended up stepping on toes for the sake of saving the project. As many others have remarked, this rivalry between the managers and the programmers is the real root of h1b. The managers have such egos and will not allow the talented programmers to get the prominence and money they deserve. It's like a war.
149 posted on 11/13/2002 10:16:50 PM PST by Red Jones
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