To: Leisler
Posting a picture does not constitute intelligent discourse. What did Hayek say about the connection between smoking restrictions and death camps?
To: Leonard210
In short.
All authoritarian states view people as property of the state. The people are a crop or a herd, to be kept at the highest level of productivity. By force. Health decisions are removed ( made illegal by law ) from the individuals. The state decides, by law, prohibitions, restrictions and criminal, those actions by people. The present political language of the health debate is a carbon copy of the Nazi's, Soviet Union, etc. Since the political philosophy is the same, the language the same, the laws the same, even the posters are the same (see my profile) I would say that in this case of smoking, it is a nice brick in the wall.
Add in other bricks of regulation of everything, i.d.'s, gun registration and control, establishment of nationwide centers of organized stupidity production( public schools ), infantilizing and feminizing of the populous, and add in historical degeneracy of the population at large, and, well, I feel that we are becoming more and more suitable for some sort of authoritarianism.
My dog in this fight isn't smoking. I don't smoke. But anything that increases the power of the state, which always comes at the expense of the individual, and free associations of individuals, I oppose.
Also, I find the arguments of people who gag at smoke pathetic. They live too soft lives.
223 posted on
11/13/2002 4:03:44 PM PST by
Leisler
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