Arm the People (II)

Give me Liberty or Give me Death Site ^ | 12 November 2002 | Jeff Head

[Jeff Head]

Updated and a little refined over the intitial post.

[Jeff Head]

BAd link in the header to the article at my site. Here's the good link:

Give me Liberty or Give me Death

[Poohbah]

Deputize them to perform specific sentry and patrol duty, not with full police powers.

That's kinda like a woman being "a little bit pregnant." If they have any authority delegated to them at all, then they have police powers. If they have no authority delegated to them, then you open a huge legal can of worms by issuing them a government-owned weapon and ammunition. Your proposal is welfare for the ambulance-chaser class, if no one else.

[Jeff Head]

FYI, a little refined and updated over the intital installment and based on the 700+ comments from the initial thread.

Fregards.

[Jeff Head]

Deptuized members of posse's never had full police powere poohpy. They were under the direction of the Sheriff or his regular deputies during the chase and apprehension.

The precedent is there and can be applied.

But thanks for the BUMP, please continue to do so.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Scuttlebutt is that the CMP (Civilian Marksmanshp Program) has struck a deal with the ATF to allow M-14s that have been converted to semi-auto only to be sold as surplus to the general public.

[Pushi]

Sounds OK to me.

[Jeff Head]

That sounds GREAT. I hope it is true.

[Jeff Head]

Present it (or something like it) to your sheriff. When I am back in Idaho from my current work here in Texas I will be doing so to mine.

If he doesn't have the ear or the stomach for it, I will find someone who will and then support them in the next Sheriff's election.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for the link and posting of this thread.

You are just a little ahead of your time.

[Poohbah]

Deptuized members of posse's never had full police powere poohpy. They were under the direction of the Sheriff or his regular deputies during the chase and apprehension.

The law assumes that the posse comitatus would be supervised by the Sheriff or his sworn deputies, and that the posse's tasking has an identifiable termination point--namely, the apprehension or death of the person or persons they were tasked with capturing. Neither assumption obtains in this case.

The precedent is there and can be applied.

Not in the open-ended manner you propose.

[Pushi]

Something like this would certainly fill a vacuum and prevent vigilante-style organizations from forming if we have massive and numerous terrorist attacks within this country. This posse-type structure would already be in place.

[Jeff Head]

Any Sheriff who wanted to institute such a program could do so Pooh (short the Federal surplus guns ... but that would not matter in most places, particularly out west) ... and I am going to push for it in my own locality, or for someone who will.

You are free to do as you please in your own.

Thanks for another BUMP.

[Grampa Dave]

Sorry about that.

My reply was meant for Jeff Head and BoT got my reply.

[Jeff Head]

That is the entire idea.

Thanks for seeing it so clearly and innunciating it in just the same manner.

[Jeff Head]

No prob bro. BoT with the info on the M-14 surplus is right there too.

Best to you.

[Billthedrill]

A BTT. Most of us who feel strongly about this issue and are trained, are already armed, but I sure wouldn't turn down an M-14...or an M-60...I'd even move the car out of the garage for a 105-mm howitzer...

[Jeff Head]

LOL!

I have my FAL and would gladly use it and forego any surplus weapon if such a program existed in my county.

[eskimo]

Give them training on their firearms, communications and the basic recon/sentry and law enforcement procedures required for the particular tasks. Have that training put on by volunteer former NCO's and Law Enforcement. Marine or Special Forces. Make update training mandatory every six months.

Are you suggesting there is a possibility that some government entity, on any level, would actually do this?

If not, who should?

[wcbtinman]

Great idea, Jeff.

Why this will never happen can be expressed in one word: Liability