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Putin says Chechen rebels out to kill all non-Muslims
sfgate.com ^ | Tuesday, November 12, 2002 | ROBERT WIELAARD

Posted on 11/12/2002 7:13:11 PM PST by Destro

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:41:23 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Hugin
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
41 posted on 11/13/2002 12:03:13 AM PST by Concentrate
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To: Concentrate
Oil can be had from many places on the earth. We don't need their oil.
42 posted on 11/13/2002 12:13:11 AM PST by Concentrate
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To: MCH
"smack chat"????

I believe it may have evolved from "talkin' smack" which probably had its roots in "talkin' trash".

I think it means "to insult".

Slang changes too fast to keep up with.

43 posted on 11/13/2002 1:44:24 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Fusion
Ooooh gooodie the wind bag is back. What, a lul in your political aspirations? Shamil shmamel...he's to busy hopping around on one leg while living in a Turkish vila to bother....just like all wind bags. Only 100K? Welp, work left to do...

Your rattling is getting dumber with each post...not that it's IQ was ever that high. If that was the case with Chechnya...there wouldn't be to many of them left...hell, it ain't a big place...so why don't you come over and visit. Maybe you missed it, Washington is on Russia's side and the spineless Euroes are against Russia....oh well.

Had your prozac today?

Islam on the Goat, Fusion belches.

44 posted on 11/13/2002 1:46:11 AM PST by Stavka2
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To: MCH
Screw up? In a no win situation, getting 600 out of 700 hostages out, killing all the terrorists and keep the buildig from coming down on everyone's heads is a success...or do you know some brilliant way to have done it better? Teleport them out maybe?....They knew exactly what it would do but had to be absolutely sure that all were incapacitated in order to make sure no explosions happened.

As for Fused...read this: FUsion's Fractured Fairy Tale

45 posted on 11/13/2002 4:21:06 AM PST by Stavka2
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To: Andy from Beaverton
Read my link to Fusion's Fractured Fairy Tale....he's a wanna be who also lives in NC. I think he got properly buggered by one to many Islamics and liked it.
46 posted on 11/13/2002 4:26:42 AM PST by Stavka2
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To: SevenofNine
Huh?
47 posted on 11/13/2002 4:30:55 AM PST by New Horizon
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To: Destro
Putin says Chechen rebels out to kill all non-Muslims

Really???

48 posted on 11/13/2002 4:32:37 AM PST by New Horizon
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To: Destro
*Applause* Putin ! We got your back !
49 posted on 11/13/2002 4:34:31 AM PST by ChadGore
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To: arielb
After all, this is just the first terrorist attack in Russia. /sarcasm.
50 posted on 11/13/2002 4:38:21 AM PST by Stavka2
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To: Concentrate
Hardly. Putin continues to build a nuclear reactor for the Iranian ayatollahs. He is perfectly happy to play up his anti-Islam credentials by foaming at the mouth when he wants support to annihilate Chechnya, and Europeans inconveniently mention "human rights". But he is not willing to see the US actually win its war on terrorism. Which he wants us fighting for a long long time. Against very well armed foes. Supply with those arms by guess who?

Russia is not our friend. If they were, they would pull the plug on the Iranian nuclear program. Instead, they are going full speed ahead.

51 posted on 11/13/2002 6:18:50 AM PST by JasonC
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To: ChadGore
And he's got our next "to do" list country, Iran, and is building them a nuclear reactor to make them as nasty as possible for us. Wake up people. Nothing this man does is anything but calculated. And it is not calculated to help us. Russia is not in favor of continued US hegemony in the world. They are perfectly happy for us to spend a decade fighting Islamic terrorists - but they do not want us to actually win.
52 posted on 11/13/2002 6:20:56 AM PST by JasonC
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To: All
Don't mess with fusion. He is looking for propaganda
53 posted on 11/13/2002 6:59:24 AM PST by bulldogs
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To: Fusion
Russian death squads roam the Caucuses with impunity -- raping and sodomising Chechen women and burning helpless villages to the ground. "Civilised" Europe makes no stand against these atrocities because Chechens choose to worship a different God than the hypocritical tree-huggers of London, Berlin, and Paris.

Soon all of Europe to know the score -- up close and personal...

Fusion What about the hordes of KLA that were going to destroy Macedonia, Greece to create the Greater Albania, has that conflict become boring? The onslaught of the Ilyrians? Macedonian is still there as well as Greece and Kosovo really has not changed except for the arrest and prosecution of the latest bunch of KLA murdering thugs by an international Judge in Pristina. Nothing really has changed except now you seem fixated on the so called greatest freedom fighter of all time Shamil Basayev who prepares to destroy the Russian Federation and take down the ex-KGB thug.

The latest hype in the news and what of it. You seem to change conflicts like underwear Fusion. Kosovo not interesting enough any longer so move on to what hot in the news? What of the Ilyrian hordes and the expanding Albanian empire which seem to be nothing but some light dirt emptied into the dust bin of history. Fusion like in New York if Osama Ben Ladin had control of a nuclear device he would have used it rather than those high jacked airliners and wasting his operatives. Now its the Russian Federation you infer will suffer the wrath of Allah’s suitcase at the hands of the Chechens therefore your comment....

"Dry is good and wind is better..."

Again Fusion if the Chechens had a tactical nuclear device they would have used it, rather than utilized valuable troops who knew they were going to die in that Russian theater, a very desperate act in order to turn up the heat? One of the Chechen rebels was related to a high level Chechen rebel leader was he not? Their is no Allah’s suit case in the hands of Islamic nut bars Fusion.

The only ones that are going to get up close and personal are the Islamic extremists who will be at the business end of computer guided munitions. Just remember one thing Fusion the Arabs need to sell oil so thay can afford their expensive lifestyles. Money and influence is what it's all about Fusion and the Arabs know this, that is why they walk the fine line and are of course in no hurry to help Chechen rebels.

The only variable that O.B.L. is counting on are the poor Arabs, like in Saudi Arabia who are subject to the tight grip of the monarchy there and as you know can get swept up in a religious cause as what happened in Iran. How long will this hold? The U.S. are starting to depend more on Russian oil and getting away from Arab sources so I believe the survival of Russia is in the U.S. best interest.

Dry is good and wind is better in Arizona Fusion that is why some many vacation there………

54 posted on 11/13/2002 7:07:18 AM PST by Wraith
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To: Wraith; Incorrigible; Smogger; Stavka2; MarMema; DTA; MCH; Kate22
I suspect history will judge the Kosovo Liberation Army with much favour. Having wrested Kosovo province from the savage thugs of Belgrade following 78 days of air bombardment, railroaded Milosevic into an international show trial, and created the Tetovo Republic from the former FYROM -- the descendents of Ancient Illyria now most content to reap the rich harvest of their noble endeavour.

Kosovo will be independent far ahead of the master timetable of Greater Albania and if that means the guns must temporarily fall silent then so be it. Plenty of places around the world for landed free men to battle totalitarianism -- such as Chechnya and Ingushetia -- while newly reconstituted NGO's and likewise organisations solidify the gains of the past war.

(I do commend you for continuing to speak the truth about Racak. But my friend, soon four long years will have passed since the "massacre" -- and the world will have much larger atrocities to "investigate." I hope you continue to spark the passion about finding the truth -- I hope someday you have the resources and opportunity to find those who were there and those who planned it -- to include a few of your own countrymen...)

Russia must die because of climatic events far beyond the actions of the madman Putin. The forces of capitalism face their most apocolyptic danger since the Great War as the artifical economics of the Western alliance reach a nexus-like kampf between the credit markets and the plague of deflationary pressures.

Thus as the Bosnian wars were much about the struggle between the European Union and America to infiltrate and exploit the vast market of the former Yugoslavia, so the starving infrastructure of the West must once again expand or face continued falling prices. Russia is the natural target and thus must yield to assimilation.

To his credit, the ex-KGB thug Putin recognises this and fights gamely. Yet his methodology chosen -- the slaughter of Muslims in Chechnya and Ingushetia in a "popular" war -- can only fool the economically weary Russian sheep for so long. And in doing so he has given the Muslim world a legitimate target to fight against.

With the future of the new oil pipelines solidified by the trimuph of the modern day Bismarck -- George W Bush -- in the recent American mid-term elections, US foreign policy shifts into a new gear. Those elections saw the liberal Democrat party dealt a mortal wound for 2004 -- and have electrified the Hawks on Capitol Hill. The Third World War approaches rapidly...

The stunning post-modern battle plan that will crush Iraq will set a new standard for 21st century warfare. However the American Empire must also be sustained -- for in 2015 or such the US must conquer the last great global threat to a century of peace -- China. To do this, European socialism must be emasculated this decade -- the evil European Union deserves not greater market share -- but 15-20 percent less so all men can be free...

War is an expensive business you know...

Thus the subtle magnificence of the current Chechen conflict and the reason that American foreign policy Hawks continue to support the Chechen freedom fighters with money, high tech communications, and those lovely MANPADS. Not only will Russia be destroyed, but the European socialists will see popular support for their movement disintegrate under the twin pressures of economic collapse and the international yielding of the "higher moral ground."

After all, Putin has murdered 100,000 Chechen civilians and the old-world European "civilisation" has done nothing. Where are the vaunted European "humanitarian" organisations in Chechnya and Ingushetia as another harsh Winter approaches?

Don't say scared of being kidnapped or beheaded. Not really unless of course they are captured by pro-Moscow militias practising a 21st century form of Maskirovka as directed by the ex-KGB thug. It is the Russians doing the killing and torturing in Chechnya -- not the Chechens. And of course the world would know this if Moscow permitted international observers

For OXFAM and Doctors Without Borders it is quite easy to go to Chechnya and send in relief columns if they truly want to. One merely wanders North of Baku into Dagestan and hangs a left into Chechnya. If you've got some time on your hands I would be happy to take you for a couple week visit sometime. If you thought your eyes were opened in Kosovo in 1999, try getting a bit closer to the fight in 2003...

Dry is good and wind is better...

As a Brit I know you are required even to this day to disavow the true nature of the death of Lord Kitchener in the Great War. However most veteran historians agree that the South African adventurer Joubert signalled the waiting U-Boat before flinging himself into the Irish Sea just ahead of the torpedoes that sent K of K to a watery grave.

Many others realise that had the secret mission to the Russian Whites succeeeded, the Bolsheviks may have been checked and the 20th century terror known as the Soviet Union never been born. Joubert now lost to much of history but his role in shaping the 20th century undeniable...

Just as the role of the greatest fighter on the face of this earth -- Shamil Basayev -- in shaping the 21st century by collapsing Russia is undeniable to those who can see beyond the curve...

If you want to put your head in the sand and refuse to believe the existence of "Allah's Suitcase" that is fine. But don't discredit yourself by basing this belief on what you perceive as flawed attack sequencing -- ie using the hijacked planes first. In June of 1914 few in Europe thought a horror of the degree of the Great War would ever exist -- let alone destroy European "Civilisation" beginning the next month.

The Islamic entente's use of tactical nuclear devices must be executed in such a manner as to assure a decisive result. They cannot hope to defeat the United States in a military struggle -- only in an economic one. However the usage of such devices in the proper theatre in conjunction with the US move towards global hegemonism can result in a favourable outcome for the Islamic entente.

And yes the Arabs do enjoy their opulent lifestyles -- but these lifestyles do them little good under deflationary pressure versus capital assets in conjunction with multiple uprisings of the Fundamentalists. The Arabs wistfully claim what you believe -- and the Russians are desperate to embrace -- that the West is better off with Russia as a trading partner. Nothing could be further from the truth.

For the West to thrive and prosper Russia must die. Through a confluence of extraordinary events, Shamil Basayev is the man that can kill Russia. And kill Russia he will...

Putin just another Moscow thug in way over his head. Observe him at press conferences when he gets rattled and observe his hands tremble slightly. They say in Moscow he has quite the facial twitch these days -- the man is clearly becoming unravelled.

Russia has but one chance to survive and that is to end her illegal genocide in Chechnya. A unilateral pullout will save tens of thousands of Russian lives and possibly enable the Russian Federation to survive as an international entity another decade.

Dry is good and wind is better...

Otherwise Mother Russia soon to join the ranks of "Yugoslavia," "Macedonia," "Soviet Union," and all the others that challenged the West and were humbled...

The forces of freedom on the move. Europe trembles.

55 posted on 11/13/2002 12:59:14 PM PST by Fusion
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To: Stavka2
Gotta fix that link of yours there Stavka2

Fusion's Fractured Fairy Tale
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3c17d47f0cdb.htm

56 posted on 11/13/2002 2:41:43 PM PST by Incorrigible
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To: Fusion
Fusion....Holy shi*, you've been using the left over 6K from your campaign war chest to smoke crack. Just when you were gaining legitamacy you start dabbling in economics. I'm glad we started to exploit the vast markets of Yugoslavia. Control over Yugo sales will elevate the US economy to new heights.
57 posted on 11/13/2002 8:51:55 PM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: JasonC
Russia is not our friend. If they were, they would pull the plug on the Iranian nuclear program. Instead, they are going full speed ahead.

Didn't we help N. Korea with their nuclear power program? And if so, what is Japan supposed to think of our frienship with them?

58 posted on 11/13/2002 9:34:39 PM PST by Concentrate
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To: Fusion
Well, all I can say is that we seem to be debating with an evil delusional Islamic history professor with a love fixation on Shamil Basayev. Lots of colorful propaganda and historical facts & references weaved into a tapestry of nonsensical claims stemming from an obvious hatred of Russia and the infidels.

While the Russians and European socialists might not be good trustworthy buddies, they're a hell of a sight better than the murderous, hate-filled, and completely unreasonable Islamicists. It's all a matter of prioritizing and categorizing your adversaries.

59 posted on 11/13/2002 10:54:57 PM PST by MCH
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To: Fusion
People like you and OBL make me happy when I see the destroyed Hadum Mosque complex in Djakovica, with the burned out mosque library building on the right, the Hadum Mosque to its left, and the ruins of the burned Koran school facing the front of the library. It means that there is one less place for you to pray to your evil satanic god. May you die wearing a pig skin!

To all of the good people at FreeRepublic, I hope I did not offend you, Fusion is evil!

60 posted on 11/13/2002 11:27:49 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton
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