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Ahhhhh, you prove the point I was considering making before I even turn on the computer.

You sir are dilusional. You live in a fantisy world where the real world never intrudes. Did you read the post you sent me? The legislation you are worried about is sponsored by DEMOCRATS! It is being pushed for by DEMOCRATS! It is a scheme that is an add-on to Clinton requested legislation, oh, btw, Clinton is also a DEMOCRAT! So is Bingo Jim in WI, who will be our next Governor thanks to Ed Thompson of your party.

You seem concerned about gun rights, so I have to ask, are you a member of the NRA? I'm a life member (I recently finished with the payments). I get all sorts of legislative info from their publication "The American Hunter". Their ratings of politicians have been in the mag alot lately, they have been very concerned about what they term the "F-Troop", rabid anti-guners getting control. There is a grand total of ZERO members of the F Troop that are Republican; all are DEMOCRATS! I can't recall ever seeing a Republican getting worse than a C- by the NRA. I'm also a member of JPPFO (Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership), and really like their plank; however, they don't have much power. Nor will they ever since they made the mistake of incorporating "Jews" in their name. When I joined I had to ask if they only accepted Jews (nope, they were happy to have me). Another problem JPPFO has is that, although correct, they tend to look "radical" because they want to go all the way right away. They, like the LP have not yet learned the turtle and the hair story. Although, I do view them as an important educational venue. Plus their goal is not to win the hearts and minds of all voters, but to get Jews, who normally vote Democrat and support "gun control" to realize that "gun control" is what allowed Hitler to commit genocide. That in and of itself is a very worthy goal!

In addition, which party is it that is trying to allow CC for law abiding citizens? It sure isn't the Democrats! They fight it tooth and nail (although it's ok for Chucky Schumer (sp?) to shoot a trespasser outdoors; they don't want my wife to be able to grab the 45 if there is a break-in when I'm at work).

However, you continue to assert that there is no diference between Republicans and Democrats. Perhaps it is the LP term "Republicrats" that confuses you. Don't blame the Republicans for your confusion, blame YOUR party! You guys can't seem to keep them straight. Perhaps also you are confused by the DEMOCRATS; since they know their true agenda would be instantly rejected, they pretend to be Republicans when they campaign on issues. Perhaps also you are confused further by the press not reporting on the extreme agenda of the DEMOCRATS; since the press are DEMOCRATS, they try to hide that agenda.

You also assume that I am a Republican, since I am not a rabid LP'er. I am not, my views lie much closer to the LP than to the Republicans, however unlike you I allow reality in my world and know that without power to make changes you can't make changes!

I am a Constitutionalist; I believe that the Founders ment EXACTLY what they wrote in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. One would hope that they did, since they were risking their lives by signing the documents! They allowed 2 ways to make changes to the Constitution; and judges seeing things that aren't there and ignoring parts they don't like are not those 2 ways! Yet, it is the DEMOCRATS who insist on this type of judge for fedral appointments. It is the DEMOCRATS who reject judges who believe that judges are to interpret the laws, rather than make them. It is REPUBLICANS who submit judges like Clarance Thomas that view the Constitution as an important document. It is DEMOCRATS that oppose them (and form protests to prevent Justice Thomas from speaking anywhere - to a DEMOCRAT there is nothing worse than an insolent black; ie. one that doesn't support them - kind of like a run away slave to their minds).

Also, it was a DEMOCRAT dominated court that saw the line I have searched my copy of the Constitution for. Try as I might, I just can't find that line about "SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE". It should be easy to find since, according to Democrats, Athiests and Lawers, it is the entire foundation of the Constitution. It was a DEMOCRAT court that discovered a woman had a god-given right to kill her unborn baby any time she chose. Again, I just can't find that in my copy of the Constitution (or the bible for that matter).

Yet, you see no difference between the 2 parties. Perhaps it is time to lay off your drug of choice?

Alan, you worry me. You are begining to remind me of a late co-worker. Nice guy (odd, but nice, or so I thought), but I'm begining to think he was an LP'er since you are sounding so much like him. As it turned out he had to resign due to failing a 2nd drug test (either that or get fired; I'm a truck driver and the DOT doesn't allow THC). Well, shortly after that his kid got busted for selling pot to an undercover cop, and told where he got it; "I got it from mommy & daddy" (ok, yes it was an adult kid). Anyway, he was growing the stuff. Big bust. He and his wife, out on bail hung themselves in a motel room. Their kids turned the funeral into a "Wellstone" type event for legalizing pot (perhaps this is what gave the DNC the idea?).

Now, I'm not saying you are a stoner, you might be, you might not be. Unlike you, I'm not going to assume things. However, I'm really concerned in that you are really starting to sound like this guy, his grip on reality was also kind of shaky. I think you really need to re-evaluate things in your life, and soon.

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MARK A SITY

The legislation you are worried about is sponsored by DEMOCRATS! It is being pushed for by DEMOCRATS! It is a scheme that is an add-on to Clinton requested legislation, oh, btw, Clinton is also a DEMOCRAT!

Who sponsors legislation is irrelevant. Republicans hold a majority in the House. Republicans have the final say on which legislation passes and which doesn't. The bill discussed on this thread was passed while Republicans held a majoity of seats in the House. The Lautenberg Gun Ban which President Bill Clinton signed in 1996 was passed while Republicans held a majority of seats in the House. It was a purely symbolic gesture intended to make Republicans look like they're tough on crime.

So is Bingo Jim in WI, who will be our next Governor thanks to Ed Thompson of your party.

Ed Thompson had nothing to do with McCallum's loss. To imply otherwise is a Non Causa Pro Causa fallacy.

...are you a member of the NRA?

The NRA is an organization of sellouts and compromisers. The NRA supports stricter enforcement of gun-control. I support the repeal of gun-control. I will never vote for a candidate who supports stricter enforcement of gun-control. NRA ratings are worthless. Any legislator who votes to enact more gun-control or supports stricter enforcement of gun-control deserves an F. Since the NRA supports both I give them an F.

...which party is it that is trying to allow CC for law abiding citizens?

You keep hammering away at getting those state-issued licenses, ok? I'll keep working toward a Libertarian society so it won't be necessary to ask the state for permission to carry a concealed weapon.

However, you continue to assert that there is no diference between Republicans and Democrats.

The differences are so insignificant as to be inconsequential.

Perhaps it is the LP term "Republicrats" that confuses you. Don't blame the Republicans for your confusion, blame YOUR party! You guys can't seem to keep them straight.

My opinion of Republicans was arrived at through many hours of reading and research, some of which I've presented to you in previous posts and which you've ignored. Whether your refusal to even acknowledge what I presented was the result of willfull ignorance or denial I have no idea.

Perhaps also you are confused by the DEMOCRATS; since they know their true agenda would be instantly rejected, they pretend to be Republicans when they campaign on issues.

Coincidently, Republicans campaign like Libertarians with talk of reducing government. But, after they get elected they make government bigger.

You also assume that I am a Republican, since I am not a rabid LP'er. I am not, my views lie much closer to the LP than to the Republicans, however unlike you I allow reality in my world and know that without power to make changes you can't make changes!

It doesn't matter to me what party you belong to. It's your voting that concerns me. Unlike you I came to realize a long time ago that I'll never get smaller government if I keep voting for people who are making government bigger.

I am a Constitutionalist; I believe that the Founders ment EXACTLY what they wrote in the Constitution and Bill of Rights...

Ask anyone in Congress and I'm sure they'll say the same thing. Republican Congressman David Dreier makes regular appearances on Larry Elder's radio talk show in Los Angeles. Larry is a Libertarian. Every time Dreier comes on he talks about how Republicans are working hard to reduce government. But, I've been watching Dreier's voting record for a couple of years. He votes for nearly every increase in government. When Larry confronts him about it Dreier's response is that Republicans kept government from growing less than Democrats. That is unacceptable.

Also, it was a DEMOCRAT dominated court that saw the line I have searched my copy of the Constitution for. Try as I might, I just can't find that line about "SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE". It should be easy to find since, according to Democrats, Athiests and Lawers, it is the entire foundation of the Constitution.

It is immoral to force people to finance the advancement of ideas which may be inconsistent with their own values or beliefs.

It was a DEMOCRAT court that discovered a woman had a god-given right to kill her unborn baby any time she chose. Again, I just can't find that in my copy of the Constitution (or the bible for that matter).

Abortion wasn't the calamity that it is today until after the Great Society programs. Abortion was virtually unheard of 50 years ago. Sure, it still happened. But, we were in a far better position to do something about it. The socialist Welfare State subsidizes lifestyles which encourage the kind of behavior that results in unwanted pregnancies. Republicans have increased funding for the socialist Welfare State decade after decade.

And of course you finally resort to the typical ad hominem attacks with insinuation of drug use and whatnot.