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Global Warming? A Misunderstanding with a dash of Lies
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Posted on 11/11/2002 4:48:58 PM PST by dila813
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I wrote this to try to explain what I see has grown in to an environmental religion that is really based upon a basic misunderstanding of English and the scientific method.
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posted on
11/11/2002 4:48:58 PM PST
by
dila813
To: dila813; hellinahandcart
An excellent source is S. Fred Singer's website, www.sepp.org.
'Pod
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posted on
11/11/2002 4:53:11 PM PST
by
sauropod
To: *Global Warming Hoax
To: dila813
Don't sweat it. Global Warming died Novemver 5th. It's official; it's over.
Might take some time to filter through the acadamia (say, 50 years or so).
But mark my words, it is now officially dead.
This silly communist attempt at redistribution of wealth just died. That's all it was.
Just ask the guy from Canada. He's on the cutting edge, ahead of the backlash that is coming.
Europe is already starting to smootch up a bit.
The Clinton era is OVER!!!!! Woooo hoooo!
(falling out of my easy chair)
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posted on
11/11/2002 4:59:39 PM PST
by
MonroeDNA
To: dila813
I believe Global Warming to be a fact. Here in Hilo, HI there's a volcano, Mauna Kea, that used to have snow every winter. There's been no snow for the last 6 or 7 years, except for the occasional winter storm that blows through.
The winters have been warmer and the summers hotter and drier, especially during El Nino years.
What I don't believe, and I don't believe that science has proved, is that Global Warming is a man-made phenomenon. And it's that fact that the leftist media, the U.N., and the enviro-whackjobs constantlly get wrong.
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posted on
11/11/2002 5:01:10 PM PST
by
etcetera
To: dila813
I think the reason that this bothers me so much is that I care about the planet so much because I want to ensure a good quality of life for my children. As long as people are talking apples and oranges, we can not have an intelligent discussion about what is happening in the environment. Good article and I agree with you. Back in the '70s, I worked very hard supporting environment issues.
Unfortunately, the more I worked in the field documenting actual pollution cases, the more I realized something was wrong with the picture.
Oh sure, I was able to take some horrifying film of a waterfall with 3 feet of soap suds at it's base. Everyone was disgusted with the images and thanked me for my work. What I did not show, was a thriving community of fish only 3 feet away. Why? Because my job was to document the horrors of pollution! Although my films were factual, it was a classic case of selective editing.
Eventually, I became so disgusted with the fraud, that I left it forever. Today, I am proud to be labeled an Anti-Environmentalist!
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posted on
11/11/2002 5:02:27 PM PST
by
Hunble
To: Hunble
Today, I am proud to be labeled an Anti-Environmentalist! Nothing to be proud about. Do you truly desire that our water be toxic where any fish eaten from that water will cause neurological damage? Air that causes lung cancer? It is simple greed that causes chemical companies to bypass EPA regulations in the manner they dump their toxic wastes. It is a matter of survival for not only us, but for our children and grandchildren.
What many polluters fail to consider is that is it THEIR children and grandchildren that will be forced to consume and breath toxins as well as the rest of us. I suppose greed causes madness to the point where they simply don't care...
To: FormerLurker
Anti-Environmentalist = FRAUD BUSTER.
Wow, that was quite a list you just put out. Obviously, the EPA has not achieved one darn thing over the years and should be abolished.
If the environment keeps getting worse since the 1970's then all of these government programs have been a total failure.
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posted on
11/11/2002 5:16:12 PM PST
by
Hunble
To: Hunble
Obviously, the EPA has not achieved one darn thing over the years and should be abolished. Are you saying that they haven't cleaned up any toxic waste dumps?
To: FormerLurker
I am asking you kind Freeper. What has the EPA achieved?
Is the environment better today, than it was in 1970? If so, in what ways?
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posted on
11/11/2002 5:18:59 PM PST
by
Hunble
To: etcetera
My teachers in the 60s (grammer and high school) taught us that we were coming out of an ice age that that climate would get warmer. Maybe they were correct...
To: Hunble
Then you're old enough to remember the impending ice age.
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posted on
11/11/2002 5:29:57 PM PST
by
fuente
To: FormerLurker
I know that I have asked you a very difficult question and an honest reply can not be simple.
Two choices:
1) If the EPA and other government programs have done a good job improving the environment, then they should be applauded.
2) If the environment is actually getting worse, then these government programs have been failures and should be abolished.
You can not have it both ways!
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posted on
11/11/2002 5:31:46 PM PST
by
Hunble
To: fuente
Yup, I remember the impending ice age. Actually, tonight here in Minnesota, I strongly feel that may have been correct.
BRRRRRRRRR...
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posted on
11/11/2002 5:33:07 PM PST
by
Hunble
To: dila813
I am trying to popularize my term : "Global Hypochondria"
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posted on
11/11/2002 5:36:40 PM PST
by
woofie
To: FormerLurker
The term environmentalist has been distorted much like the term global warming. An environmentalist in the pure sense is one concerned with the influence of multiple factors, some natural, some man-made, on the natural environment.
In contemporary context, the term environmentalist is associated with groups that burn homes under construction, burn or trash research labs, sue, not for merit,but to create obstruction, chain themselves to trees and damage personal vehicles because they do not fit their environmentally "correct" perceptions. The contemporary environmentalists riot in Seattle, Washington DC and Paris, obstruct justice and vandalize.
I too was once an environmentalist. I was and will always be concerned with the quality of the air that I breathe and the water that I drink. But, I will never ever, allow my ethics and my personal values be compromised to the point where I could be called an environmentalist today.
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posted on
11/11/2002 5:38:55 PM PST
by
pfflier
To: FormerLurker
You don't understand, Environmentalism is a religion now.
I am a conservationist not a environmentalist, this doesn't mean I am pro-pollution.
Many of our fore-fathers were conservationists.
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posted on
11/11/2002 5:40:19 PM PST
by
dila813
To: dila813
Stock up on some of the stuff that Art Bell is hawking, the world will end next week. Buy a book too. Puke too.
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posted on
11/11/2002 5:43:10 PM PST
by
Waco
To: dila813
Maybe this will help. The earth is 3 degrees colder today
than in 1940, in the 11th century the continent Greenland
was farmland occupied by Vikings, now it's a mile thick
iceberg. A simple temperature statement slays anything
these idiots have to say.
To: Waco
If the world is ending next week how will they get paid? LOL
If the world is ending next week, why are they still working? LOL
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posted on
11/11/2002 5:45:10 PM PST
by
dila813
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