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Restoring property rights
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Monday, November 11, 2002 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 11/11/2002 1:36:55 AM PST by JohnHuang2

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Monday, November 11, 2002

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1 posted on 11/11/2002 1:36:55 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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2 posted on 11/11/2002 8:10:07 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: Free the USA; All

This is his land. What he wants to do with it is of no concern to the government. What he wants to do with it is of no concern to his neighbors.

The below post was to a anti-tobacco/anti-property rights thread:

It's irrational and often dishonest to put forth that a person can assign or give to a person, group of persons or government a right he doesn't himself possess in the first place.

No person has the right to barge onto another person's property uninvited. Nor does a person have the right to "camp" or take up a seat on another person's property once the property owner has asked the person -- whom the property owner invited in the first place -- to leave. Who is to say when a person is uninvited? The property owner. Who is to say when an invited guest has overstayed their welcome? The property owner.

That law, if you will, is universal. It's objective law. Objective laws exist beyond the reach of man-made law or political-agenda law or media agenda or media bias. That is, objective law regarding access to property and who holds the right is valid on all property at the property owner's discretion.

The American news media proclaims from on high that the individual belonging to this group of people and that group of people and all manner or segments of individuals that can be corralled into a group have, as an individual member of said group, the right to barge in uninvited, and when invited, the right to overstay his or her welcome.

That communitarian agenda is proclaimed form on high to protect the "little guy". The little guy being an individual of any special interest group. Special interest groups that self-proclaim to have rights that as separate individuals no person in the group has the right to impose on another individual.

It's the rule of tribalism -- tyranny of a majority over the individual. It's a form of terrorism inflicted on the individual that if the individual doesn't bow to the tribe's irrationality, dishonesty and mysticism he or she will become the tribe's next victim.  There in lies the underlying motive and cause of almost all politicians, bureaucrats, mainstream news media "personalities" and many academics: to undermine honesty.

Dishonesty, mysticism and irrationality are the problem/cancer that terrorize the little guy.

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Politics suck. Politics suck objectivity out and insert irrationality in. Sometimes a small error will be compounded over and over until it becomes a massive problem. In mid-term and presidential elections tens-of-millions of people vote for the lesser of evils despite that it still begets evil. How can so many people thinking they're right be so wrong?

The tide is turning; the pendulum is swinging the other direction. Reality asserts as sure as honesty outlives the lie. It always has and always will. In politics, democrats are but the first party in the pendulum's path to be defeated in their irrationality and dishonesty.

3 posted on 11/11/2002 9:04:08 AM PST by Zon
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To: JohnHuang2
If you pay property taxes on it you don't really own it. Plain and simple...
4 posted on 11/11/2002 9:12:58 AM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: Zon
"The tide is turning; the pendulum is swinging the other direction...."

Would that it were so. I see the pendulum slowing slightly in its leftward swing a little, but that is a long way from swinging the other direction.

The Republicans have both legislative and executive branches for the first time since long before my time, but there are enough RINOS and milquetoasts in there to keep the media at bay and do the right thing.

I'm cautiously optimistic, but, like a lot of others, I'll believe it when I see it.

5 posted on 11/11/2002 9:26:26 AM PST by nightdriver
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Would that it were so. I see the pendulum slowing slightly in its leftward swing a little, but that is a long way from swinging the other direction.

It's not a pendulum swinging from right (conservative, Republican) to left (liberal, Democrat), or vise versa. It is a pendulum swinging away from dishonesty, irrationality and mysticism moving toward honesty, rationality and objectivity. It just so happens that in politics, democrats are and will be but the first party in the pendulum's path to be defeated in their irrationality and dishonesty.

In case you missed the salient point: politics suck objectivity out and insert irrationality in. Politics is not the solution. Politics is the problem. Yet politics is still but a symptom of the cancer. Loss of objectivity can lead a person to believe that the pendulum swing is from Republican to Democrat or vise versa (the symptom) rather than the real, valid Pendulum motion is from dishonesty/irrationality/mysticism to honesty/rationality/objectivity (the cure). No matter which political party may be the lesser of evils or greater of evils at any given time, all evils are in the pendulums path of restoring honesty, rationality and objectivity.

Dishonesty, mysticism and irrationality are the problem/cancer that terrorize the little guy.

6 posted on 11/11/2002 9:54:40 AM PST by Zon
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Stand Watch Listen; freefly; expose; .30Carbine; 4Freedom; ...
Land Rights Ping/WND
7 posted on 11/11/2002 11:56:51 AM PST by madfly
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BTTT!!!!!!
8 posted on 11/11/2002 12:16:14 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: madfly; *Enviralists; 1Old Pro; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; a_federalist; abner; aculeus; ...
Unfortunately, this looks like just wishful thinking.

Gingrich and Lott zapped the very same agenda in '95. - Hastert is very pro government, anti-freedom.

9 posted on 11/11/2002 12:31:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: editor-surveyor
BTTT!!!!!!!
10 posted on 11/11/2002 12:44:26 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: editor-surveyor
One battle at a time, Permanent tax relief including and end of double taxation of dividends, Judges, energy policy(Drill Alaska),judges, end partial birth abortion, judges,tort reform and did i mention get the presidents jucicial nominations confirmed.
11 posted on 11/11/2002 12:48:57 PM PST by CPT Clay
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bttt
12 posted on 11/11/2002 12:59:23 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: CPT Clay
Right!
13 posted on 11/11/2002 1:07:58 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ColdSteelTalon
In reality, aren't we just paying "user fees" on homes, cars, boats, etc.? The way I understand it is if there's anything that can be seized from you for non-payment of taxes, fees, etc. then you really don't own it.
14 posted on 11/11/2002 1:12:54 PM PST by american spirit
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To: editor-surveyor; Carry_Okie; backhoe; Black Agnes; countrydummy; newriverSister; brityank; ...
I don't think Hastert, Bush or Lott will do a damn thing about property rights. They haven't half a clue between all three of them. Think Manifest Destiny.

GWs brother Jeb is singlehandedly in the process of ruining my community because he bedded the rich and powerful Greens. I've pretty much shut up about it because around here you love the Bushes or suffer the consequences. Never mind that an entire community of good people (who I care about deeply) are being desroyed in a wholesale fashion.

15 posted on 11/11/2002 1:13:55 PM PST by AAABEST
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First of all, there is no such thing as "Restoring Property Rights." Property rights are an unalienable, natural right. We the People instituted our government to SECURE those rights.

Our national government acqured police powers over the states and the power to confer citizenship with the Civil War (effectively making slaves out of everyone instead of setting anybody free). With that power it began to institute regulatory bureaucracy and extend extranational interest with Roosevelt I. It was he who created the financial bind that gave us the Federal Reserve. Once Congress had abrogated its Constitutional mandate to coin money to a private monopoly, the country went bankrupt in short order and surprise, surprise, it was Roosevelt II who was the executor of that bankruptcy.

Now our government has used its police power to accrue to itself unconstitutional powers to control the use of private property, in the interest of its creditors, both by legislation and treaty law without having compensated its owners who are accountable for that debt.

So here is Joe Farah expecting the government to give us back our power now that Republicans have control? Who is he trying to kid? If we can't even get our language straight about what property rights are and what they mean, how are we going to win this battle?
16 posted on 11/11/2002 1:53:26 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: american spirit
"If you pay property taxes on it you don't really own it. Plain and simple..."

And just the opposite is true. Stop paying your property taxes for about 3 years and see who owns your property!

17 posted on 11/11/2002 2:04:34 PM PST by holyscroller
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To: AAABEST
BTTT
!!!!!
18 posted on 11/11/2002 2:05:07 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Carry_Okie
I agree. These sick, twisted people contend that a f***ing turtle has the right to be left alone, in his territory yet they go about the process of methodically destroying a persons life.

And every single politician in my chain of representation, regardless of party, has signed up with them.

19 posted on 11/11/2002 2:08:23 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: Carry_Okie
In Tx. and Calif. for sure as well as other states property rights researchers are learning more and more every day the truth about the mechanisms these corporations (masquerading as municipal, county and state gov'ts.) are using such as unconstitutional codes, regulations, statutes, to facilitate their land grabs. Some of these alleged city gov'ts. have become nothing more than frontmen for the big-money developers.
20 posted on 11/11/2002 2:39:32 PM PST by american spirit
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