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Hateful Letters to a Soldier - From a Leftist Professor
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| November 8, 2002
| peter kerstein
Posted on 11/09/2002 12:28:23 AM PST by doulau
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To: doulau
I just sent this to the dirtbag. I've been in tears nearly all day. How dare that a$$ talk about our brave men and women. He isn't fit to speak their names.
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Im writing this to you because I dont think that you are sorry for what you said. It always amazes me that your type doesnt
understand that if it wasnt for people like this young soldier you would not be able to express your opinions. We would all be under the thumb of Japan, Germany, or the Soviet Union.
Another reason Im writing this is because my 23 year old son is in the Marine Reserves. He has given up his apartment and stored his belongings and lives now with his brother because he knows it is only a matter of time before he is called to war. His college education will be put on hold for a while. I am very proud of my son because he felt that he should give back to the country that had given so much to him.
So when you stand in front of your students and you are able to talk about whatever you want just remember where and who kept that right for you.
A proud Marines Mother,
To: ProudEagle
I hope you never believed what some jackasses like this professor would say 'that the US lost the Vietnam War'.
Today in Hanoi, there is a McDonalds serving Coca-cola.
Tha greatest symbol of AMERICAN capitalism.
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posted on
11/10/2002 1:12:13 PM PST
by
uncbuck
To: Coeur de Lion
My guess--the notoriety of a widely diseminated slanderous email written by the "esteemed" professor. Hopefully he got his backside slapped by his superiors.
This "learned" professor needs to review his history. It hasn't been much over two hundred years that the last Intifada of fanatic Islamists was stopped after they had flooded several countries. They do not hate just us, the US; they hate ALL non Muslims. Islam is NOT a religion of peace. Some of its practicioners may be peaceful because they practice the earlier writings of Mohammad which emulate many of the Judeo-Christian ethics. But the fanatic leaders such as Khomeni mean to stamp out ALL non-believers, per Mohammad's later instructions and maunderings.
Vaudine
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posted on
11/10/2002 1:12:54 PM PST
by
vaudine
To: ProudEagle
By the way, THANK YOU VETRAN!
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posted on
11/10/2002 1:14:08 PM PST
by
uncbuck
To: doulau
I'm going to pay college tuition for three kids for this crap? If your kids are truly intelligent they don't need college. I dropped out after two years and am making more money and have a more promising future than any of my left-wing friends. Bottom line is: BRAINS SELL, not a worthless diploma that says I learned all about multiculturalism, globalization, homosexuality, and other politically correct bull$hit.
To: amstaff1
"The crack about killing non-white people is ridiculous, as if there were some agenda."
I am a white anglo saxon male, and it always amuses me when I see comments like his.
Doesn't he realise that we aren't allowed to tell anbody about the conspiracy? I'm sure all of you other Wasp males know the secret hand shake. And that our agenda is to rid the world of all non-white peoples. The whole thing is written down and given to us on our 18th birthdays.
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posted on
11/10/2002 1:22:50 PM PST
by
uncbuck
To: Tall_Texan
Please note item 4--instructors should feel free to academic revisionism. This guy 's field is History, and he has certainly revised history in his stretch to make the US the bad guys.
He also states his belief in multiculturism, diversity, and the wrongness of US unilateralism--i.e. American sovereignty.
Hope he doesn't have tenure. St. Xavier should take a long review of this pretender who thinks he is a teacher--indoctrinator, more like.
Vaudine
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posted on
11/10/2002 1:26:23 PM PST
by
vaudine
To: doulau
We are blessed to have men like these in the armed forces. Their maturity and manliness (or womanliness) is to be commended at high!
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posted on
11/10/2002 1:32:47 PM PST
by
aSkeptic
To: Coeur de Lion
because it was the only option he had left. Saving face can be a bitch huh ;)
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posted on
11/10/2002 1:34:19 PM PST
by
aSkeptic
To: doulau
"I'm going to pay college tuition for three kids for this crap?"
Take heart, I don't know how old your kids are, but mine's 17 and she's a real right winger. I think she's to my right, in fact. Thank goodness she hasn't decided to rebel by becoming a left wing idiot. I have always talked to her seriously about things that are important, I think this has helped.
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posted on
11/10/2002 1:37:43 PM PST
by
jocon307
To: uncbuck
Thanks Buck. I never bought the media or acadamia garbage and never will. Welcome to FR. Glad to see the youth of today carrying the torch.
To: Coeur de Lion
I'm curious why the professor changed his tune!Cockroaches don't like the light of day?
To: patriciaruth
Semper Fi to all Marines out there today on the Marine Birthday. God Bless all our military men and women who protect our shores and because of their efforts and sacrifice we have a free nation. God Bless you All! A traitor's death to all the academic pond scum who discredit and vilify our military.
Red
To: ofMagog
A bump for your post!
To: Aquamarine
Bump to you.
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posted on
11/10/2002 4:10:15 PM PST
by
ofMagog
To: SAMWolf
Absolutly disgusting. What a sleen.
76
posted on
11/11/2002 11:08:51 AM PST
by
aomagrat
To: doulau
Sure sounds like Dr. Richard Yanikoski, President, Saint Xavier University, got the message 5x5 on the deplorable e-mail that Peter Kirstein sent back to the USAF Academy. The below listed response to a tremendous onslaught of letters and e-mail from the Military seems to me to be sincere, particularly since Dr. Yanikoski is ex USAF. Lets hope that the idiotic university "tenure" system doesn't protect this bastard from his due expulsion from Saint Xavier.
You have reached the Office of the President, Saint Xavier University.
I very much regret having to resort to an automated response, but I must do so for two reasons. First, messages of concern from military men and women around the world now far exceed my ability to respond to them individually. I have sent hundreds of personal replies during the past 5 days but, unfortunately, I no longer have the ability to keep up. Second, I will be away from the university for several days on important university business. I will keep on top of this matter, but will have limited time in front of a computer.
PLEASE KNOW THAT I WILL READ AND GIVE CAREFUL CONSIDERATION TO EVERY MESSAGE THAT COMES TO ME. I TAKE THE MATTER CONCERNING PROF. KIRSTEIN VERY SERIOUSLY AND I AM CONSCIENTIOUSLY WEIGHING ALL OPTIONS AND ADVICE
Here is a brief summary of what I have heard so far, and my responses.
COMMENTS MADE TO THE UNIVERSITY
- "Prof. Peter Kirstein's initial email to a cadet at the Air Force Academy was tasteless, unprovoked, rude, unprofessional, and indefensible." I agree completely.
- "Prof. Kirstein's apologies seem less than genuine to some who have read his remarks." It always is difficult to look into a man's soul, but I believe Dr. Kirstein's apologies to be genuine. However, apologies are insufficient by themselves. Fortunately, the cadet has graciously accepted Prof. Kirstein's apology, as have others at the Academy, and conversation now is proceeding in a courteous, professional manner.
- "The forthcoming Academic Assembly at the Academy is an event worth supporting. It's a shame that Saint Xavier's response was so negative." Prof. Kirstein did not speak for the University in his first response. Saint Xavier University intends to identify and support one or more students who will attend the Assembly.
- "Prof. Kirstein has spoiled the reputation of the University, particularly if his views or the manner in which he expressed them are reflective of the University's attitude." Prof. Kirstein's views are solely his own and do not reflect the University in substance or tone. Saint Xavier University stands for reasoned discourse and educational practices based on "respect, caring, and justice." Prof. Kirstein's email to the cadet reflected none of these attributes. Crude language is not and will not be tolerated.
- "Prof. Kirstein should be summarily fired." As president, I am exploring all options for ensuring that such behavior never again occurs. While I understand why many request his immediate dismissal, I have to weigh very carefully matters of due process, academic protocol, legal precedent, and the greater good. I assure you that I will do what is right in this matter. I also will follow the University's policy of not discussing personnel matters with third parties.
"Academic freedom is not a legitimate defense for the kind of language used by Prof. Kirstein." I agree. Academic freedom is about the right to search for truth, the right to hold views at odds with the majority, and the right to teach unencumbered by rigid orthodoxies. It does not justify hate speech, vile language, etc. Professors here and elsewhere are expected to be respectful at all times, to engage in genuine, reasoned discourse about controversial matters, and to distinguish personal views from institutional positions when necessary for the sake of clarity. Thus, Prof. Kirstein is free to hold views critical of the military if he wishes to do so, but he is not free to issue demeaning, degrading statements AS A PROFESSOR in or outside of the classroom. In other respects, he enjoys the same freedoms of speech extended to all citizens.
I deeply regret the hurt that has affected so many. As both president and former USAF, I offer my most sincere apologies to all in the military and beyond whose sacrifices and intentions have been denigrated by Prof. Kirstein's words. I ask for your understanding as we attempt to rectify this unexpected situation. Please know that the University is taking this matter very seriously and will do its best to bring the matter to a proper close. You have been heard! My goal is to seek a just solution, a practical response, and a lasting form of resolution that will uphold the integrity of both the university and the military.
To those who are current or former members of the military, I offer my heart-felt gratitude for your service to the nation and I extend my personal best wishes on the occasion of Veterans Day.
Sincerely and respectfully yours,
Dr. Richard Yanikoski, President Saint Xavier University
To: doulau
Yes folks, mr. kirstein typifies the majority of social "science" professors in our "beloved" taxpayer money gobbling universities. Isn't that COOL?
bttt
To: Tall_Texan
Tall Tex, you are asking too much from social "science" professors. These brain dead "human beings" have lost the capacity for rational thinking, they have become mindless SLOGANEERs.
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