[Pistias]

a)The problem is that you can't prove that fetuses are human beings -- b)nor can you prove that any want to be born to mothers who don't want to bear them

a) This remains the most ignorant f*cking argument I have ever heard. What exactly sets them apart from you?

b) The reverse is also true; thus, why should we err on the side of killing the little being before it can decide that for itself?

[ravinson]

What exactly sets them [feteses] apart from you?

Fetuses can't be proven to have human essence (aka "souls" or "spirits").

why should we err on the side of killing the little being before it can decide that for itself?

I'm not proposing that anyone should err on any side, I'm just suggesting that you cannot prove that an abortion is an error, whereas the initiation of force against a human being without justification is always a provable error.