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To: ER_in_OC,CA
Coulter's point is that one of the Democrats' premier issues is abortion. Not just legal abortion, but legal abortion at any stage during pregnancy, for any age pregnant woman, funded by public money, without any required waiting period, and without any required parental notification, and without any rights for the father.

She said nothing of the kind. Here's what she said:

"Love of abortion is the one irreducible minimum of the Democratic Party. Liberals don’t want to go to war with Saddam Hussein, but they do want to go to war to protect Roe v. Wade."

That's pure hyperbole. I've never heard any Democrats say that they love abortion and I'm not aware of any acts of war committed by any liberals in the name of pro-choice. On the other hand, some people who call themselves conservatives have bombed clinics and killed innocent bystanders in the name of the "pro-life" movement. Nevertheless, it would still be hyperbole for me to say that conservatives want to go to war to prohibit abortion or that the Republicans' "one irreducible minimum" is hatred of women who choose abortion.

But now to your implicit point ... which is that "moral values" should not become part of the political scene.

I never implied that at all. I am a libertarian who believes that libertarian moral values should be incorporated into law. Nevertheless, I do not believe that misrepresentation or hyperbole promotes libertarian values -- nor does the hyperbole of anti-abortion zealots promote their moral values.

Are Abortion and Adultery Equal?

This is a red herring question, since I never equated the two. I was only making the point that someone who thinks adultery should be legal is not necessarily "pro-adultery" any more than a person who thinks abortion should be legal is "pro-abortion".

Why can't people who support abortion's legality say "I'm for abortion remaining legal" instead of substituting the word "choice?"

I'll say that any time. But people are entitled to identify their position in any way that is not a misrepresentation. If I say that I am "pro-choice" with regard to the abortion issue, that is a correct statement, whereas if you or Ann Coulter say that anyone who is "pro-choice" is "pro-abortion", that would be clearly be a misrepresetation (or at the very least an unsupported assumption).

179 posted on 11/08/2002 9:16:06 PM PST by ravinson
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To: ravinson
It just all come down to choice. You support a woman's right to choose ... to murder her unborn child.
180 posted on 11/08/2002 9:20:03 PM PST by TigersEye
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To: ravinson
You are using a quote only from this piece to advance your perspective on Coulter's view of the Dem's abortion stance. While this is not unfair, my expansion of her point was relying on a her body of work. So while you are technically correct in saying "she said nothing of the kind..." I was not referring in particular to this article.

If you think I'm disagreeing with your statement that Coulter's writings are hyperbolic and exaggerations to advance her point of view, I'm not.

Most would agree she absolutely exaggerates and pick examplers "at the margin" to advance points.

Where I disagree with you is that you state that because of her hyperbole, she doesn't "help the cause." And while this is a matter of opinion, I generally disagree. But this isn't a point worth debating since our opinions on her "value" mean little -- and frankly the "market" has already "spoken." At least to the extent that the "market's will" is reflected in her book sales.

285 posted on 11/09/2002 12:48:20 PM PST by ER_in_OC,CA
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