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Bush Delivers Knockout Punch
Human Events ^ | 11/8/02 | Editorial

Posted on 11/08/2002 3:02:32 PM PST by Jean S

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1 posted on 11/08/2002 3:02:32 PM PST by Jean S
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To: JeanS
I'll take all the analysis I've heard for the past three days and throw it out the window, and go with this.

It wasn't Bush, it was Bush's "message."

2 posted on 11/08/2002 3:06:57 PM PST by copycat
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To: JeanS
If Bush wants his agenda to pass he has GOT to get LOTT's attention! I won't suggest how he could do it, but LOTT is something of a wimp and he needs a good kick in the ...!
3 posted on 11/08/2002 3:08:35 PM PST by Enterprise
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To: RonDog
Seems like Hugh Hewitt really nailed it, eh? And/or someone in the White House was listening. Thank God!

Dan

4 posted on 11/08/2002 3:15:29 PM PST by BibChr
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To: JeanS
Glad to see Bush was campaigning on EXACTLY the right issues

Don't know if he decided to do it this way or his advisers idea but THANK YOU Mr President for framing the issues .
5 posted on 11/08/2002 3:16:58 PM PST by uncbob
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To: JeanS
JeanS there is one giant problem that few if any had forseen. It is apt to change the entire structure and foundation of the white house.

They will have to construct a massive vault to even begin to hope have a place to store Dubya's political capital. Dubya invested every cent he had in the 2002 election and the last I looked it payed 3,000 percent interest.

They talk about Bush having problems in the Senate. There are 19 Democatic senators up for relection in 2004. Cross Dubya and they will find Karl Rowe and a candidate to be named later who will give the Senator the same treatment Max Cleland got in Georgia.

It is not normal for a president to pick up senate seats in an off year election. Bush picked up seats. It is very normal for a president to pick up 8 or 9 seats in his on year election. Bush just might pick up 10 or 12 seats Depending on who he decides to target. Do you think it has occured to any Democratic Senators that NOT being a bush TARGET in 2004 might be a good thing?

If Daschle says to his caucus let's stand up to bush. Let's not vote for CLOTURE. Lets make this filibuster stick.

Bush then calls up that same senator and says, "You going to give me reason line up a candidate and have Karl take you out in 2004 Senator?"

The prefered answer will be NO Mr. President. If you would be so kind as to dictate what I am to tell Mr Daschle I'll read it to Tom so I am sure to get every word just the way you want it.

Daschle will be very ineffective at holding his causus together. He needs 40 of his 48 senator to prevent Bush from doing what ever he wants to do. Daschle will not get them very often ...if at all.

6 posted on 11/08/2002 3:24:54 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator
Do you know who might be the 8 most reasonable Seantors?

I know Zell is on board.

There must be a few Dem senators up for reelection in conservative states who are going to be very obedient as well!

7 posted on 11/08/2002 3:34:49 PM PST by Monti Cello
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To: JeanS
There is one thing to understand in this past election.

Bush was very active inselecting candidates that could win.

Coleman is a former Democrat Mayor of St Paul. He is a HUGE RINO. He will also get us a lot of conservative judges confirmed.

Jim Talent is a RINO as is LIBBY DOLE and John Sununu.

This nation is evenly divided.

Republicans must run conservatives in conservative states and RINOs in liberal states.

If the Democrats elect more DINOs in conservative states than we elect RINOs in liberal states they will rule.

Elect conservatives in conservative states. Elect RINOs in liberal States. Govern as conservative as you can with out losing elections.

That is what it takes to govern and change America. It is what the democrats did for nearly 2/3 of a century.

We have turned the tables.

But don't buy the crap that it was our issues. We took this election by wining liberal states with RINO candidates. New Hampshire, North Carolina, Missouri, and Minnesota were won with RINOs. They were not the only ones. That is how we did it. And if we are not so stupid as to forget how it is done, we may keep on doing it for a long time. These RINOS's will help us defeat Sadam, change our tax laws, put jugdes on the courts who will reafrim all our rights.

It is true. It takes RINOs. We can't do it with out them.

Look at what happened in California when we forget.
8 posted on 11/08/2002 3:37:45 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: JeanS
What was particularly devastating about this election was that it came on the heels of the controversial 2000 presidential election. Democrats had deluded themselves into thinking that Bush was an "appointed" President who would always be tarnished in the White House, and this past Tuesday really put that whole idea to rest.

For Democrats, the end result was far worse than just the numbers.

9 posted on 11/08/2002 3:40:09 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Monti Cello
Evan Bayh of Indiana. He has pretended to be a conserative democrat, but he has actually voted with Daschle most of the time. However, he did vote for the Iraq resolution.

Either he will accept the veep nomination in 2004 (unlikely, since we are a small state and don't bring much clout) or he will be running for reelection.

The Indiana Republicans, who finally have a new chairman, have been very quiet about who will run against Bayh. I would guess the next few months Bayh is going to be very careful, since he would not like to have a Norm Coleman appear and run against him. HA!

10 posted on 11/08/2002 3:41:36 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Monti Cello
No but many in the class of 2004 are bound to be scared. Bayh in Indiana might be one once in a while He is leftist but he wants re-elected. Breaux in Louisiana looks good, Dorgan, Graham, Lincoln, perhaps even Edwards. If they go too far left Hollings may not play ball with the left. He has said he is retiring in 2004. He will not want to go down in S.C. history as the hated Liberal Fritz.

That is just the class of 2004. There will be some in the class of 2006 who will sweat a bit too and even some 2008 guys who just won a close one.

Most likely it will be CMA types. The group will shift on various issues. Some will be with bush on one issue and against him on the other. But Bush will always get the 9. It is typical CMA. In the primary against a liberal the Senator will want to name 15 times he stood up to Bush. In the General election he will want to name 15 times he stood with him. They will take turns.

11 posted on 11/08/2002 3:47:30 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator
Sununu is a RINO? His record speaks otherwise.

Coleman is a RINO? He has a reputation as a moderate mostly based on the fact that he talks nicely and used to be a Democrat. But his positions, except for on ANWR, were rock solid conservative.

Saxby was also hand picked. Hardly a RIBO.

Liddy Dole, you are right.

But you labelled way too many people there as moderates.

12 posted on 11/08/2002 3:47:36 PM PST by William McKinley
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To: copycat
I remember all the back slapping and elation of the 94 elections. Two years later we were all wondering what happened. Now is not the time to think that the fight is over. Get rid of Lott as Senate leader for starters and Hastert in the house. They are both pussies.
13 posted on 11/08/2002 3:51:47 PM PST by willyone
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This is Too much fun, the democrats in MELTDOWN, Repulican M-1 Tanks chargin at full speed, TAKE NO PRISONERS!
14 posted on 11/08/2002 3:56:31 PM PST by agincourt1415
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To: Common Tator
Amen, CT! I sure hope you can get through to the purists on FR! Strong conservatives cannot and will not win in liberal states. But they will still help to turn this country more and more to the right of center. Keep up the drumbeat, my friend, because you have the right answer!
15 posted on 11/08/2002 3:58:56 PM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: Common Tator

How do you account for the Senate losses that ocurred in 2000? I agree that they don't want to be in the crosshairs come 2004. I would also look for them to get along the first year and pass some things so that in the following election year they can be more true to their democrat party line. just a guess.

16 posted on 11/08/2002 4:00:02 PM PST by deport
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To: Common Tator
Congratulations on your remarkable sanity on the RINO issue.

It might also be noted that most RINOs vote more conservative than most "conservative Democrats" (a mostly mythic species). Susan Collins's lifetime American Conservative Union rating is 58; Snowe's is 50; they have gone up as high as 76 and 80 respectively; John Breaux's lifetime rating is 47 and 48 is the highest annual rating I could find for him. His rating was 17 in 1998 and 21 in 1999.

17 posted on 11/08/2002 4:04:28 PM PST by Southern Federalist
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To: Enterprise
Oh, I think Bush has Lott's complete attention.In fact, I think Bush will have Lott where he wants him, and will let him deal with Dems who have shown any ability to bend and be accomodative.Why, after this rout, should you have any doubts about Bush's ability to gauge the political landscape, craft policy, and execute his plan?
18 posted on 11/08/2002 4:04:44 PM PST by habs4ever
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To: habs4ever
In my heart, I know you're right. Lott is a southern boy, and he knows that the other southern boy, Bush, is pretty damned crafty. Someone else posted something to the effect that Bush has patience and cunning, and when you least expect it - BAMM - you get a 2X4 up side yo head!
19 posted on 11/08/2002 4:27:42 PM PST by Enterprise
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To: habs4ever
And another thing. It wouldn't surprise me if someone from the Bush team told the RATS that Pelosi would be a GREAT choice for House Minority Speaker, and they FELL for it!
20 posted on 11/08/2002 4:30:20 PM PST by Enterprise
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