[palmer]

Palmer, you continue to use phrases like 'increasingly human and protectable life'. Please note that the embryo is fully human, existing exactly as human individual life is designed to exist at that period in a lifetime. To terminate an embryo is to terminate an individual human lifetime. We ought be honest about that,...

Then we should also admit that it is a religious distinction contrary to "fallacy" #3 in the original article. You want to use "science" to back up your claim of humanity, but also admit science is attempting to make clones to treat disease. Do those clones exist "exactly as human life is designed to exist" in that scientist's test tube?

I probably shouldn't use the phrase "increasingly human" without being more specific. What I mean is: increasingly taking on more human features along with beginnings of human thought. To be even more specific, a human life worthy of some protection should at least include those features that exist at 6 weeks as described in my post #300.

[MHGinTN]

Then we should also admit that it is a religious distinction contrary to "fallacy" #3 in the original article. You want to use "science" to back up your claim of humanity, but also admit science is attempting to make clones to treat disease. Do those clones exist "exactly as human life is designed to exist" in that scientist's test tube? Yes, the stages along a typical human lifetime aren't changed by the clone attempts, merely manipulated for exploitation. That exploitation of individual human life for cures and profits is unconscionable to me, like harvesting helpless humans to benefit the more powerful humans merely because one can do it.