10 FALLACIES IN THE ABORTION DEBATE

Conservative Commentary ^ | 8 November 2002 | Peter Cuthbertson

[txzman]

Christian Bump and Bookmark

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

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[Nephi]

"Morals" are a deceptive replacement for the avoidance of sin. I am an atheist. I have no morals.

Too bad.

The constitution to which you defer acknowledges God and our rights which are inherent. The constitution acknowledges God as the supreme law; that men have inalienable rights granted by God for the purpose of our experience on earth and that we, the people, loan that power to our repulican government. Our government will crumble when the people cease to be virtuous and our government evolves from republican to democratic. Hence, an atheistic government would be inclined toward communism, not republicanism.

The Founding Fathers never intended to keep the worship of God out of government; they only sought to keep government out of the worship of God. Still, that is okay for the most fanciful among us who deny God. Ironically, it is in the atmosphere of religious freedom in which atheists are free to cling to their fantasies and ignore the evidence that God exists, if they choose. Unfortunately, while many atheists profess to be students of fact, they ignore the factual basis for the constitution in which they seek harbor from "God."

[mafree]

Thanks for the bump- your posts have a lot of insight.

[VeritatisSplendor]

Nice post but I don't like your banner -- the pic of Thatcher, who was pro-abortion, is inappropriate.

[MEGoody]

"A man rapes a woman and gets her pregnant. The solution is to kill the only innocent one in the equation?"

Your question is right on. It makes no sense to kill the child because some guy committed a crime. I think a lot of people feel that it would just be too traumatic for the woman to carry the 'product of rape' to term. What they don't understand is terrible emotional pain a woman endures after abortion. Anyone who doesn't think that occurs should check into a study published by the Southern Journal of Medicine which shows that women who have aborted commit suicide more than 200% more often than those who gave birth.

[MEGoody]

"A man rapes a woman and gets her pregnant. The solution is to kill the only innocent one in the equation?" AAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHH! Did you just imply that a woman is guilty if she is raped?"

I'm a woman, and I did not get that out of what BloodofTyrants said. The woman is not at fault when she is raped, but if she gets pregnant, she is the caregiver of an innocent little child. Her trauma can be dealt with in ways other than killing her own unborn child.

[Nephi]

My post was based in historical fact, which you do not refute, but merely ignore.
Isn't fact all that matters to the atheist?

Your post is a bitter, irrational justification for your refusal to acknowledge truth.

Belief in God is freedom, belief in money is simply ridiculous.

[MHGinTN]

If I were to ask you what you would accept as 'proof' of God's existence, what would you offer?... In point of fact, ANYTHING offered to prove the greater whole than the entire universe (for the creator, by necessity, will be greater than the creation) will be something less than the actual thing asserted as proven to exist, thus you will only be offering lesser factors of the thing you wish to prove. Believing there is a Creator, believing in God, is a matter of faith, just as Einstein's belief in his relativity theories was based on the faith that lesser indications proved the greater truth. But I would be interested in what you could be offered that would 'convince' you of God's existence.

[Alex Murphy]

Belief in something that I have in my hand right now is "simply ridiculous"?

Yes, Binky, it is. Government taxes and Fed monetary inflation schemes will take a big chunk out of it (or, more properly, already did) before it ever left your pocket. And who voted for that Government and who staffs the Fed?

That's right - people do. People just like you and me (assumptions given, just to be on the

That's why I prefer a faith that "is the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things unseen." It's not that it lacks evidence or substance. It's just someplace where corrupt men can't get their hands on it, or change it's value without your consent.

[Lurking Libertarian]

The constitution to which you defer acknowledges God and our rights which are inherent. The constitution acknowledges God as the supreme law

I can't find that in my copy of the Constitution. Could you cite the Article and Section number to which you refer?

[MHGinTN]

You aren't 'big' enough to take in a specter of the Creator, nor is anyone else in this spacetime universe. There is no actual 'proof' in the sense of a scientific proof. And that's why I look at the creation and it builds faith in me that there is Creator for that creation. [BTW, I use the present tense because I believe the Creator is still creating.] That faith does nothing to devalue my life and if when I die there is no afterlife, I haven't lost a thing. But if I choose to not believe and there is an afterlife, think of the implications! And you have, I have no doubt. You've probably come to the same incomplete conclusion that if there is an afterlife, the Creator of such couldn't possibly be so petty as to limit that afterlife based on belief in so narrow a faith system as Christianity and trust in Christ. I would argue with you on that one, if you choose, but not on this forum, in freepmail if you like. [Here's a hint: how many seeds are produced by, for instance, a sunflower, and how many of those seeds actually go on to mature into a new plant? God's economy is very different from our self-weighted perceptions.]