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FROST: PELOSI HAS VOTES FOR MINORITY LEADER
Drudge | November 8 | Frost

Posted on 11/08/2002 11:31:09 AM PST by RobFromGa

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To: Guillermo
Actually, the extremists are democrats; extremely out of touch, extremely intolerant of people's values, extremely disconnected with the things that make America great. And what about taking issues to the extremes of their greed, even using funeral events to vent their insane drive for power.
161 posted on 11/08/2002 4:26:17 PM PST by Hila
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To: MrPeanut
When I was growing up "Socialist" was a dirty word not to be used against your worst enemy

That's not the case now. Among the tenure set, it's a badge of honor.

162 posted on 11/08/2002 4:47:33 PM PST by Exigence
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
what are they possibly thinking of?? Don't they realize, they are killing their party?
163 posted on 11/08/2002 4:48:09 PM PST by nini
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To: Physicist
RE: #20.......Dems hereafter to be called THE NANCY BOYS!! I like it! LOL
164 posted on 11/08/2002 5:31:35 PM PST by Carolinamom
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To: RobFromGa
Thank God!

For a Republican, Nancy Pelosi is a "dream opponent."

Sorta like the Dims' "dream team" they ran here in Texas.

Hehehehehehe...
165 posted on 11/08/2002 7:16:27 PM PST by Redbob
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To: MrPeanut
If you honestly look at it, the policies and rulers of the DNC are communists.

I hate to be disagreeable (since I basically agree with you), but I think it's more reasonable in politics to take everyone (i.e., the Dems) at face value, in terms of their goals, and then decide what to label them by some empirical measure of these goals. In many cases -- perhaps half of Democrats -- their goals are, I think, suitable for calling them "socialist," but not "communist."

I would point out that my terminology comes from two, I think quite defensible, angles:

1) Empirically, or objectively, the best definition of "socialist" I can come up with would include those people who want to markedly increase the portion of a nation's GDP that is routed through government, especially when that portion is approaching a majority of an economy. (The US is currently at about 35%; most of Western Europe is 50% or slightly higher. Note that schemes to socialize health care, which would probably be favored by half of Democratic politicians, but very few Republicans, would increase the U.S. to a European level of government spending.)

2) Historically, even if you listened to, say, Radio Moscow in the early 1980s (I had a short wave), their terminology was that they were "socialist" countries, not "communist" countries, even though they were ruled by "communist" parties. It's not that they were trying to waffle away from the charge of being communist. It's that "communism" was the name for the end-goal of the party, the situation in the utopian "withering away of the state" predicted so falsely by Marx. And they had no pretentions of reaching that goal (they would have to give up their cushy Party/Government jobs).

166 posted on 11/08/2002 7:23:26 PM PST by DWPittelli
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To: DWPittelli
So unless someone appears to, or claims to, believe in Marx's prophesied Communist utopia-without-a-state, I don't think they can properly be labeled a Communist.
167 posted on 11/08/2002 7:27:59 PM PST by DWPittelli
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To: RobFromGa
Oh gosh I can't stand to listen to her.
168 posted on 11/08/2002 9:32:16 PM PST by Dengar01
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To: Redbob
Go Nancy, go. Be a loud, persistent voice. Garner lots of airtime.
169 posted on 11/08/2002 9:34:22 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
From your lips to Gods ear. Who are going to be her assistants, the whips?
170 posted on 11/09/2002 12:08:51 AM PST by bybybill
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