[Digger]

These are all of the excuses that will be used. Now I am not a libertarian. I am a true conservative. I know that government will grow. The Pubbie party is no more conservative than the JFK was in his adminstration. Maybe that played partially in his demise. Bottom line. the people/persons that support these candidates are the elites & they determine the outcome. The players in this "two-party cartel" play a silly game & try to convince the sheeple of doing good intents. Don't forget what Alexander Tyler said about democracies.

[winner45]

Re: msg #14

Alexander Tyler, an eighteenth-century Scottish historian, concluded from a study of Athenian democracy that democracies cannot long survive. He wrote,

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising them the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by dictatorship."

And further, he postulated:

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependence back again to bondage."