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To: Hoplite
Are you sure you were paying attention? The war in Bosnia had been over for nearly three years by the time we started bombing Serbia, and there were atrocities to go around on all sides in that conflict. Serbia did nothing to merit the bombing attacks in '99. Unless, of course, you actually believe the KLA-concocted Racak "massacre".
15 posted on 11/10/2002 7:49:00 PM PST by inquest
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To: inquest
Uh, we bombed the Bosnian Serbs in '94 and '95.

And Racak was a massacre of civilians, no matter what the World Socialist Web Site and all it's fine cohorts say.

Alas, who can you blame for being misled other than yourself?

Something for you to ponder.

16 posted on 11/11/2002 12:34:21 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: inquest; Hoplite
A lone Croatian man killed double the count at Racak. He came forward on his own and admitted it - he had not been imprisoned, tortured, or hunted by the Hague or anyone at all. (Now Serbs have been tortured, bribed, and pressured to confess - in one case Serbs were tortured by Muslims to confess the murder of two Muslim brothers - two Muslim brothers who were discovered alive and well years later!) This Croatian was part of a group which simply liquidated Serbs - house after house, town after town. But was Croatia bombed or condemned for that genocide in 1991? Nope. Croat and Muslim separatists were given a free hand to liquidate and torture Serbs, and the press gave them cover. Remember, despite having oodles of Western journalists stationed in the Balkans, it was only the JAPANESE journalists who took photos of Serbs roasted to death by Bosnian Muslims. These Serb photos can be found on the internet - charred bodies right out in the open - in front of hotels and other buildings. The mainstream press gave cover to those who genocided Serbs by ignoring the evidence before them and/or mislabeling Serb dead as others. For instance, a funeral was presented as being for a Muslim child, but those familiar with Orthodoxy, such as Stella Jatras, saw it was an Orthodox funeral.

http://www.cdsp.neu.edu/info/students/marko/feral/feral45.html

My name is Miro Bajramovic and I am directly responsible for the death of 86 people. I go to bed with this thought, and - if I sleep at all - I wake up with the same thought. I killed 72 people with my own hands, among them nine were women. We made no distinction, asked no questions; they were "Chetniks" [Serbs] and our enemies. The most difficult thing is to ignite a house or kill a man for the first time; but afterwards, everything becomes routine. I know the names and surnames of those I killed...

It was enough to be a Serb in Gospic to mean that you did not exist anymore. Our unit liquidated some 90 to 100 people in less than a month there...

We kept prisoners in the school cellar; and when we had more prisoners, we would put them in classrooms. Nights were the worst for them, since it was then that we "interrogated them" ...; this consisted of finding the best way to inflict the greatest pain in order to make them confess the most amount of information...

Wounds were opened and salt or vinegar scattered over them; we did not let the bleeding stop. The prison commander Mijo Jolic forced them to learn on the same day the Croatian anthem; today he possess- just like Suljic- restaurants all over Croatia. Why don't I have anything?

When I recall all that torturing, I wonder they managed to think of all of those methods. For example, the most painful is to stick little pins under the nails and to connect it to the three-phase current; nothing remains of a man but ashes. I would never think of that, although I do know of the Lenz law. I was doing the interrogation of prisoners, but I never harassed them nor did I enjoy that; but some did, as Munib Suljic for example...

It is difficult to say how long we held prisoners. This depended on how long it took us to wear them out. In most cases we held them 4-5 days before we killed them. If they had survived, they would not have been normal. Serbs, who were good and loyal served us by digging graves, we told them that they were digging covers for machine guns. Once, one of the prisoners from Kutina said that this was the 15th or 16th cover that he was digging. He was executed on the spot. It wasn't up to him to count but to dig... I could not say that mass executions were carried out in Pakracka Poljana. These were mostly groups of 7 to 10 people. It actually depended on how many people were in the prison at the time. Sometimes we executed people in their homes, and then blew up the house. There were no bodies left. There were many houses like this, mostly in the village of Bujavica.

nothing remains of a man but ashes

executed people in their homes, and then blew up the house. There were no bodies left

This shows how many Serbs were destroyed without a trace - no need for graves in many cases. But the results of what the Croats did were confirmed in the recent census where Serbs are down to 4.5% from a pre-war population of 12.2%.

If they had survived, they would not have been normal

Freeper wonders, who was a UN officer in Croatia for years, knew a teenage boy who was tortured by Croats after Operation Flash. She said they destroyed his kidneys and his mind too:

After "Op Flash," what went on in Bjelovar Prison was not pretty. Croats denied Red Cross, UN and OSCE access to the prison, which for some reason also did not make it into the press. In July 1995, I interviewed a young man (16 years old) who had no kidneys (and very little mind) left after Bjelovar. I helped him get to relatives who had already relocated in Banja Luka. I still pray for him now and then.

20 posted on 11/13/2002 6:33:03 AM PST by joan
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