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To: Truth Telling Guy
Labor unions fear that if this Homeland Security Agency gets created, it will start a domino effect that will erode career protections for federal civil servants through our government. Considering how arrogant, corrupt and lazy most tax-subsidized civil servants I know are, all I can say is...."Go W. Go!"

For more details on upcoming changes to the current civil service protections for which President Bush is admirably fighting:

http://www.spaceprojects.com/bureaucrats
4 posted on 11/08/2002 8:31:56 AM PST by End The Hypocrisy
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To: End The Hypocrisy
The new massive bureacracy agency is horrible idea that will do nothing good .

Secure our borders, and deport illegals and terrorists.
8 posted on 11/08/2002 8:37:48 AM PST by Truth Telling Guy
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To: End The Hypocrisy
Labor unions fear that if this Homeland Security Agency gets created, it will start a domino effect that will erode career protections for federal civil servants through our government. Considering how arrogant, corrupt and lazy most tax-subsidized civil servants I know are, all I can say is...."Go W. Go!"

To further that effort, we at FR could document examples of gross employee incompetence where the perp was no only NOT reprimanded or fired but promoted and given a bonus.

One such example was the recent malfeasance at the American Embassy in Saudi that allowed the hijackers in with faulty applications. In the past I have also read of examples of the government, especially the Defense Dept., credit cards being abused. One woman spent about $80,000 on herself and her son and was Not penalized but was promoted and transferred to another Dept. where she was in charge of credit card expenditures. I am sure that there are many more we could accumulate to illustrate how bad the situation is and why it needs to be changed.

16 posted on 11/08/2002 8:46:53 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: End The Hypocrisy
Labor unions fear that if this Homeland Security Agency gets created, it will start a domino effect that will erode career protections for federal civil servants through our government. Considering how arrogant, corrupt and lazy most tax-subsidized civil servants I know are, all I can say is...."Go W. Go!"

A friend who is a 25-year employee of the Dept. of Transportation has given me status reports since he started there. Crappy permanent employees cannot be fired -- they are simply transferred to another branch to screw things up there. And after a person has been in a job long enough, they cannot have their pay reduced, even if they are demoted ten levels for incompetence. There are GS-7s earning $ 135,000 a year at DOT. A Teamster's wet dream. Just what we don't need in Homeland Security.

46 posted on 11/08/2002 12:30:27 PM PST by pabianice
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