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To: BMCDA
Did you just ask what is my definition of the word is?

Its all a play on semantics, and the most common interpretation of the word "Creator" (used in the DoI with a capital 'C') is a supreme being, I'm not arguing a specific religion here, just that atheists, as I understand it, don't believe in a supreme being. That would be an agnostic. Agnostisism and the Constutution ARE compatible.
I've never seen an atheistic bible to know how that whole 'church' works.
75 posted on 11/07/2002 12:09:48 PM PST by uncbuck
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To: uncbuck
Creation/God...REFORMATION(Judeo-Christianity)---secular-govt.-humanism/SCIENCE---CIVILIZATION!

Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives(no govt religion--none) who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD---the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(limited NON-intrusive PC Govt/religion---schools)!

Evolution...Atheism-dehumanism---TYRANNY(pc-religion/rhetoric)...

Then came the SPLIT SCHIZOPHRENIA/ZOMBIE/BRAVE-NWO1984 LIBERAL NEO-Soviet Darwin/ACLU America---the post-modern age

76 posted on 11/07/2002 12:11:56 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: uncbuck
To: Marathon

Missionaries have said for years that American educational/media institutions are far more closed than in places like Russia. This underscores their point. What was it someone said, to find real communists these days you have to visit an American university?

2 Posted on 03/27/2000 10:56:24 PST by Marathon

78 posted on 11/07/2002 12:20:45 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: uncbuck
Atheists don't believe in supernatural beings, whether they are supreme or not. However, I still fail to see why not believing that the 'Creator' is a supernatural, personal entity is in any way unconstitutional.
The Constitution is the valid law of the U.S. and whatever happened before the Constitution was enacted is only of historical interest. And as far as I know, the Constitution is compatible with a belief in a deity (or deities) as well as with the lack thereof.
79 posted on 11/07/2002 12:30:55 PM PST by BMCDA
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To: uncbuck; BMCDA
Uncbuck, you're right. It would be Clintonesque torture of logic to somehow think that "Our Creator" mentioned in the Declaration is not the God of the Bible.
174 posted on 11/10/2002 1:11:46 PM PST by Tribune7
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