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To: ancient_geezer
It's obvious you haven't.

But you know I have. You made plenty of comments to the analysis I posted on FR a couple years ago. Why do you say things like this? Hoping a lurker will read it, believe it and not read the response? You are probably right in that. But it doesn't not contribute to an honest dicussion nor does it contribute to finding the truth of a matter.

If dishonest tactics, diversion, misdirection, and deceit are necessary to push a program, what does that say about the program?

824 posted on 11/09/2002 7:42:17 AM PST by William Terrell
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To: William Terrell
But you know I have read hr 2525.

But Will, if you really have read the bill, why do you say that it will be regressive? It is not regressive - indeed the poorer you are, the lower your effective tax rate. And if you are below the poverty level, you have a negative tax rate.

How could someone who claims to have read the bill not have absorbed such fundamental information???

And Will, if you really have read the bill, why do you say that your business purchases will be taxed??? It is a fundamental component of this bill that business purchases are not taxed.

How could someone who claims to have read the bill not have absorbed such fundamental information???

Your material misstatements regarding these two issues alone easily suffices for evidence that you haven't a clue. Saying you've read and understood the bill but making these fundamental errors is analogous to an individual claiming to be a carpenter but not knowing what a hammer, saw, or nail is.

SUre you can post incomplete snippets interspersed with your own commentary - but a 5 year old could do that. You do it with the intent to decieve though.

825 posted on 11/09/2002 7:56:56 AM PST by Principled
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To: William Terrell

But you know I have.

I know you have extracted bits and pieces to construct your invalid analysis. You claim to understand the bill, only goes to expose you as the demogogue you are when others read the bill and compare it with your supposed objective analysis for themselves.

H.R.2525
SPONSOR: Rep Linder, John (introduced 07/17/2001)
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.

Refer: http://www.fairtax.org & http://www.salestax.org


If dishonest tactics, diversion, misdirection, and deceit are necessary to push a program, what does that say about the program?

I'll let others decide where the dishonest tactics, divdersion, misdirection, and deceipt are coming from from the hyperlinks to the bill and solid information above.

I whole heartedly argree that one who pushes their views in such a way has an agenda that is not good for others. No just what is the program you are pushing, You still shoveling out the tax evasion non-sense you have previously supported and claimed to engaged in?

It is interesting to note that those who have not paid taxes by failing to report income under the current tax system have a great deal to be concerned about under the NRST. They might actually have to pay taxes like everyone else when they buy their goodies. NRST put a crimp in your style Terrell?

Why haven't you explained to folks your real concerns about the NRST in this thread? That would certainly clarify your position in these matters. It is much easier to hide income from an IRS and get away with it for long periods of time, than it is to evade the NRST making purchases at the local grocery store. Let the folks now about your real agenda in all this, where is that honesty you are claiming for yourself. Seems to me you have a hidden agenda in your attempts to demogogue HR2525.

829 posted on 11/09/2002 8:21:53 AM PST by ancient_geezer
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