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In Support of Limited Voting (Vanity)
Original | 11/6/02 | Russell Easley

Posted on 11/06/2002 10:15:16 AM PST by BSunday

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1 posted on 11/06/2002 10:15:16 AM PST by BSunday
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2 posted on 11/06/2002 10:18:34 AM PST by BSunday
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To: BSunday
I've advocated for years that only people who own property (actually own it not lease it via a bank mortgage) or pay taxes should vote.

If you do not provide any resources to the government you should not have a say in how those resources are expended.

3 posted on 11/06/2002 10:20:08 AM PST by Mark Felton
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To: BSunday
I wholeheartedly agree...when morons and drones who can't think for themselves vote, they literally put the nation at risk. Also a problem is the issue of immigrants voting. Can we really get an legitimate vote from people who cannot even speak English, and know practically nothing of our system of government? What does it say of the Democratic ticket if the overwhelming majority of these types vote Democrat?
4 posted on 11/06/2002 10:29:13 AM PST by ShayAllen
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To: BSunday
Raise the voting age to 30, make anyone who is receiving any kind of welfare payments from state or federal government ineligible, and make anyone who has a court appointed guardian due to mental incapacity ineligible. That should take care of most of the problem.

And I don't see any problem with voters being concerned with a reasonable level of legal protections for animals, but the Florida pig thing was a bit over the top -- should have been handling with a little picketing and boycotting, rather than a voter referendum and government regulation.
5 posted on 11/06/2002 11:33:08 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker; Mark Felton
Combine your two ideas:

Only net tax payers get to vote.

6 posted on 11/06/2002 12:14:20 PM PST by MrB
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To: BSunday
No representation without taxation.
7 posted on 11/06/2002 12:18:41 PM PST by diotima
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To: MrB
good point.
8 posted on 11/06/2002 12:43:41 PM PST by Mark Felton
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To: BSunday
People have the right to vote stupidly.
9 posted on 11/06/2002 12:53:34 PM PST by BikerNYC
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To: MrB
Yes, that would be ideal, but under our current complicated web of often disguised welfare, it could get pretty difficult to calculate. For example, those interest-subsidized GSLs your kid is using to pay for college -- is that welfare to you, welfare to the kid, or not welfare at all since the only reason college costs so much is that colleges have raised their tuition to whatever the market will bear, which amount has been driven much higher by all the government-funded aid programs?
10 posted on 11/06/2002 1:03:55 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Yep, kinda hard to calculate in the present system.
Perhaps if the FedGov were Constitutional, this would be easier. Then again, if it were Constitutional, there would be no net tax receivers.
11 posted on 11/06/2002 1:07:47 PM PST by MrB
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To: BikerNYC
Obviously, they do. But should they?
12 posted on 11/07/2002 5:57:25 AM PST by BSunday
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To: BikerNYC
Obviously, they do. But should they?
13 posted on 11/07/2002 5:57:26 AM PST by BSunday
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To: BSunday
Sorry for the double post.
14 posted on 11/07/2002 5:57:56 AM PST by BSunday
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To: BSunday
Most people don't bother voting anyway. About 40% voted in the midterm elections. That means 21% of the TOTAL population decides how to run the country. That's 1 out of 5 Americans.. hardly a majority of the people.
15 posted on 11/07/2002 6:21:01 AM PST by thisiskubrick
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To: BSunday
I cannot believe this kind of stuff gets written in a patriotic/conservative news forum with the US flag attached.

Voting is a right for all citizens. It is a basic feature of our country. There are a couple of countries that don't allow everyone to vote though. In China for example those in power get to decide who is "smart" enough to vote.

Voting is the only power we have to peacefully change our government!

If limits are put on voting rights, then people in power will abuse those limits to their own ends. Southern states have tried all kinds of shenanigans to prevent blacks from voting. Literacy tests, history tests, competency tests, etc. etc.

Seattle just passed some great anti-tax measures that the establishment is calling "stupid". They would LOVE to make some kind of "test" to prevent people from voting.

Republicans call the Dems stupid and vice versa. Everyone hates each other's power to vote and would love to prevent them from getting to the polls.

If you are really worried about stupid people, then support steps to improve education in our country.

16 posted on 11/07/2002 6:32:50 AM PST by thisiskubrick
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To: thisiskubrick
If you are really worried about stupid people, then support steps to improve education in our country.

I am. I homeschool.

17 posted on 11/07/2002 6:37:34 AM PST by BSunday
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To: thisiskubrick
PS. I am sick and tired of explaining this to humorless wretches. Please re-read the article. Does it not appear tongue in cheek to you, at least a little? You people need to stop taking yourselves so seriously.
18 posted on 11/07/2002 6:40:43 AM PST by BSunday
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To: BSunday
Yes, they should vote however and for whomever they want to vote. Each individual is the best measure for their own interests.
19 posted on 11/07/2002 6:52:18 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: BSunday
It would be great if voters had at least a rudimentary understanding of our Constitution.

But a voting test for American citizens over 18 years old?...I don't think so!

(It would be fun to design one, however.)

20 posted on 11/07/2002 8:57:44 AM PST by shetlan
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