Posted on 11/06/2002 5:34:44 AM PST by logic101.net
TIME FOR AN END TO THE CONSERVATIVE INFIGHTING MARK A SITY 11/6/02
When WI taxpayers burden skyrockets, we have Ed Thompson to thank. When Milwaukee and the surrounding area are saddled with a light rail system few want, and no one will ride, we have Ed Thompson to thank. When caps on property taxes are removed, and property taxes skyrocket, we have Ed Thompson to thank. When welfare reform is de-reformed in WI, we have Ed Thompson to thank. When public schools in WI get even worse, and the public school teachers get huge raises, we have Ed Thompson to thank. When WI residents find their rights to defend themselves against criminals who break into their homes weakened, we have Ed Thompson to thank. When companies leave WI, or decide not to set up shop here due to our repressive tax structure, we have Ed Thompson to thank. When Gov Jim "bingo" Doyle rewards his contributors, at the expense of the taxpayers (as he has a history of doing), we have Ed Thompson to thank.
Who is Ed Thompson? Ed is the brother of Tommy, our former governor; the current HHS Secretary. Ed was the Libertarian candidate for governor in WI. Ed gave the Governor's Mansion to Bingo Jim by getting 10% of the vote. Governor McCallum lost the election by only 3%. Thanks Ed.
IL can say much the same for Cal Skinner. I don't know how much of the vote Cal got, but it is likely that Jim Ryan would have won there rather than the Democrat were it not for Cal. One good thing for WI residents over IL residents; at least we can pronounce and spell Bingo Jim's name. I won't even try either for the IL Governor Elect!
Let's keep in mind that Libertarians and Republicans are generally going in the same direction. True, the Republicans don't want to go as far as Libertarians, and there are some very contrary views. However, both generally want a smaller federal government that is less intrusive. Democrats on the other hand want bigger and bigger government. They want hand outs. They want dependency. They want Socialism rather than freedom! They want gun control rather than criminal control. They want ignorant sheeple rather than an informed, educated self-dependent population. I prefer much of the Libertarian agenda to that of the Republicans, but I find the Democrat agenda totally repulsive. Libertarians often hand elections to the Democrats, by taking away conservative leaning votes. When a Libertarian candidate's message resonates with the public; Democrats win! A Democratic win doesn't help Republicans, Libertarians, or Constitutionalists! It sets back all of our causes. It is well past time for Libertarians and Republicans to get together to defeat the common enemy. We can work out our differences later; let's get rid of the common threat first! As far as my views; neither Libertarians nor Republicans go far enough; I am a Constitutionalist! Yet, I generally vote Republican; I'm a realist. When we break the stranglehold of the left, then we can fight each other; but let's fight each other on our terms, not theirs!
Now, as far as Ed Thompson goes; well I have to steal a line from one of my favorite movies (They Call Me Trinity). I'm not mad at Ed, I'm mad at his ma. She should have strangled him, or at least drown him when he was born.
MARK A SITY http://www.logic101.net/
"Okay, then by your standards we should legalize rape, or murder, or bank-robbery, since laws against rape or murder or bank-robbery rob people of their "inalienable right to choose evil."
Wow. This is heavy. Now we're getting into theology. I think there is plenty of biblical support for the idea that death and the like are the result of sin, as in "the wages of sin is death", but does this mean that all adversity is the result of sin?
For example, look at John 9, where Jesus heals the blind man.
(I'm using the NIV translation)- from 9:1
"As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?" Jesus replied, "Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but his happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life.
This seems to suggest that not all adversity is the direct result of sin, thus putting Jihad's statement in question. We don't know why things happen, and sometimes God has a long term plan that we can't understand, or that we might never even conceive as just. But it's not always the direct result of sin.
The last time an attempt was made to put such protections into our state constitution, there were halfwits claiming it wasn't necessary because of the Second Amendment.
So by your reasoning, the F rated Democrat "earned" those votes, with some help from the LP.
Not by my reasoning. Perhaps by yours.
How did the LP "help" the Democrat?
Good point. Nonsense can't be carried to a logical conclusion.
Thank you. What you are so gently doing, is what made FR the greatest spot on the web at one time. I miss that type of discourse.
Libertarian philosophy is not the same as libertarian reality. No political philosophy is flawless or without negative unintended consequences when implemented in the rough and tumble world of everyday life.
Any libertarian who cannot severely and honestly critique his ideology and identify very real and serious flaws within it is simply a shallow-thinking zealot, an idiot wheezing platitudes from a soapbox.
Over the past two years at FR, I have come across perhaps two or three libertarians at most who have even dared to honestly critique their chosen ideology. One of them has already jettisoned libertarianism; another is in the process of doing so.
On the other side of the rift, the most zealous and shallowest-thinkers have fled to Liberty Post or Liberty Forum to continue a group-think mutual masturbation session in the insanely funny and delusional belief that they have found the nirvana of "free thinking."
Invention. Sourceless, meritless, pathetic.
"War, famine, drought, flood, pestilence, disease, all are caused by sin." CJ
You have supported such insanity. Can you honestly critique CJ's ideology and identify very real and serious flaws within it? Or are you simply another shallow-thinking zealot, kevin, -- an idiot wheezing platitudes from a soapbox?
But they often return here with new handles, after regaining access by fraud.
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