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To: archy
Please don't attempt to lecture me about TR. My grandfather, who was a staunch fan of his, heard him speak, worked to get him elected ( but NOT after he switched over to the BM party ), and infused a love of him, in me, when I was but a tiny child. Unlike YOU, I have heard directly, from someone who actually lived through those times, besides reading everything I could, about TR. I also know history quiet well, and your assumptions about TR keeping Communism from our shores, is utterly delusional, fallacious, and a conjecture that is unsupportable by facts.

TR conjured up and ran on the Bull Moose ticket, because of his ego. There would have been no BM party with TR. He was a one man show and a sideshow , unfortunately, at that.

Would Taft have been better than Wilson ? YES ! Would a second term og Bush the elder been better than 2 horriffic terms of X42 ? How can you even wonder about that ?

Political naifs, who went for Perot ( and that poster said NOTHING at all about the NRA, Ruby Ridge, nor anything but about " READ MY LIPS " ! ), just because of the " NO NEW TAXES " line, shouldn't be allowed to vote ; they aren't educated enough. Neither are silly " purists ", who can't see beyond the edge of their own delusional self righteousness.

Oh so President Bush is going to have his own Riby Ridge " ? REALLY ? Which are you using, tarot cards, a scrying mirror, or a crystal ball to make prognostications with ? Maybe you can give us next weeks WSJ Dow Jones figures. Oh, but never mind, dear, you aren't trustworthy; not in the least. LOL

4,483 posted on 11/06/2002 10:44:35 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons; archy
...[archy's] assumptions about TR keeping Communism from our shores, is utterly delusional, fallacious, and a conjecture that is unsupportable by facts.

TR conjured up and ran on the Bull Moose ticket, because of his ego. There would have been no BM party with TR. He was a one man show and a sideshow , unfortunately, at that.

Even when President, Roosevelt justified his populism by saying it was either that or socialism. Out of office, he kicked up the rhetoric even more. It was as much a posture as an act of self-justification.

My understanding is that Roosevelt rather kicked up socialism than stopped it. His theory was that in order to stop socialism he'd have to act like it.

American politics uniquely absorbs dissent. Roosevelt took it further. He cannot be credited with stopping the advance of communism. I'd give Taft far greater marks on that, for he stood for constitutional government and stopped cold the populist tide that Roosevelt tried to ride back into office.

4,489 posted on 11/07/2002 9:57:30 AM PST by nicollo
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