[wcbtinman]

"How did they know he owned this particular rifle?"

The illegal formulation and updating of this "database" is going to be the mechanism that will allow the defense attorney for Muhammed and Malvo to have all of the evidence that ties them to the Bushmaster rifle declared inadmissable.

Without the tie in to the rifle, the govt has no case and the bastards will walk.

I talked to an ATF agent about this, and while he would not admit that the govt broke the law, he said that the idea is to get the guy off the streets, and worry about the legal technicalities later.

When I asked him if the govt should obey the law like everyone else, his response was "No". I asked him again just to be sure I heard him correctly, and again his response was to the effect that the ATF and the FBI do not have to follow the law in cases like this.

My response was "you're joking right?". He looked at me with some irritation on his face, and replied, "How many times do I have to say it?".

I no longer care if the govt has a warrant, they cannot be trusted at all.

The sad part of this is that even the local LEO's have the same attitude.

[OldCorps]

Why would you want to talk to an ATF agent? Their entire agenda is confiscation and intimidation. There might be some decent FBI agents out there, probably in the sticks away from Washington and the political games at the expense of our freedom.

The article was very interesting. I've often thought about joining the NRA, but always decided that I didn't want to get on another database.

My experience with local law enforcement here in Georgia has always been positive. These guys actually want to get the bad guys, and are not on some media or political campaign.

How about you other guys? Should the gun owner have asked the local sheriff to come out as an honest broker? I'd really like to know what others think about this. Thanks,

[Travis McGee]

"When I asked him if the govt should obey the law like everyone else, his response was "No". I asked him again just to be sure I heard him correctly, and again his response was to the effect that the ATF and the FBI do not have to follow the law in cases like this."

They are above the law, because their mission is so important.

This is what they believe, and that minset is a MAJOR part of my RKBA novel.