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To: HamiltonJay
the DIFFERENCE is i KNOW the guy and he is NOT a JERK, but MANY FB&I agents today are.

he was one of the MANY patriots that fought the "gore wars" with us at CHENEY's house!

sadly you are living in the past, if you really believe the FB&I is your friend.

ALSO, i USED to be a state LEO & a fed and the FB&I has changed, BUT not for the better since i was employed.

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107 posted on 11/05/2002 10:14:52 AM PST by stand watie
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To: stand watie
the DIFFERENCE is i KNOW the guy and he is NOT a JERK, but MANY FB&I agents today are.

I'm sorry, I disagree, his actions in this matter are wholey that of a JERK. He may be a great guy at other times, but in this matter he was a JERK. Agents are doing their jobs, there was nothing confrontational about their actions in any way until this guy decided to turn what should have been a civil conversation as part of a routine investigative stop in an anti-terrorist investigation into a Me V Them confrontation. He knowingly and willfully turned the situation confrontational without any need or justification. Just a paranoid JERK in this case.

he was one of the MANY patriots that fought the "gore wars" with us at CHENEY's house!

Well that's great, but that doesn't change or excuse his actions in this instance.

sadly you are living in the past, if you really believe the FB&I is your friend.

I believe the FBI was doing its duty, and I believe that they do their duty often very well. You talk of how you know MANY of them are jerks, well how many Sir? How many of the thousands of FBI agents, that work day in and day out and do good damned work, and love their country and their families and help protect this country and help put criminals behind bars, do you know PERSONALLY to be jerks? The FBI investigates thousands upon thosands of things yearly, and handfuls of them turn up with problems and you sit here and broadbrush the entire organization by these few incidents that the press latches onto. The press always latches on the negative extremes of anything, it is the one offs that are news worthy. The normal day to day things never get attention, they are not unique enough.

Your associate needless decided to create a confrontational situation when it was not needed nor warranted. These agents were doing their job, given the situation are you suggesting they should not be checking into known weapons of the type being used by the terrorist? Amazing, the biggest lying organization on the planet today is the media and here your fellow "gore war" veteran is placing his trust in the media over the FBI in a matter of terrorism, so much so that he turned what should have been a civil 15 minute conversation into a confrontation.

ALSO, i USED to be a state LEO & a fed and the FB&I has changed, BUT not for the better since i was employed.

All things change, but for you to sit here and broadstroke all law enforcement as tyranical jacked booted terrorists is hogwash! There are thousands of dedicated professionals that work for the FBI, and unlike your unruly little JERK associate of yours one of them was actually killed by these terrorists, but them coming to his door to follow up on the location of his gun was some sort of irreprehensible situation that he needed to antagonize them needlessly for duing their duty. His actions were not CIVIL, he took a indignant defensive posture when none was needed.

He may be a fine human being, but his actions in this particular instance were those of a JERK.

111 posted on 11/05/2002 10:56:47 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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