To: thinktwice
I've never thought the "I" in "I exist" is the "thing" that does the thinking. The "I" is actually an object of consciousness. You can never catch consciousness by itself, but rather consciousness is always consciousness of something, in this case, "me." The "I" that Descartes talks about isn't actually doing the thinking, rather, it is an object of a pre-reflective consciouesness that cannot really be captured. It's always out of our reach.
But anyway, now for something completely different...
9 posted on
11/04/2002 8:02:15 AM PST by
BikerNYC
To: BikerNYC
Did you know that the plot in Ayn Rand's Anthem, involves a society where use of the word "I" is totally banned.
To: BikerNYC
I've never thought the "I" in "I exist" is the "thing" that does the thinking As indicated in my post #12, we are in agreement.
14 posted on
11/04/2002 8:10:44 AM PST by
Semper
To: BikerNYC
The problem with this 'great idea in Western Thought is that it is based on human logic and reason. Nothing else in the universe is. This one stupid statement has shackled western thought for centuries. Thinking is neither a necessary nor even a particularly desirable requisite for 'existence'.
"I think therefore I am"
I think I am.
I am.
am
To: BikerNYC
You can never catch consciousness by itself, but rather consciousness is always consciousness of something, in this case, "me." You can catch it if you separate it from awareness by thinking now of your left big toe.
260 posted on
02/08/2003 5:47:17 AM PST by
William Terrell
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