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To: honway
This ridiculous notion that firefighters who are trained and prepared to enter buildings on fire to save people would turn tail and run

Consider the firefighters running up the stairwell in the World Trade Center toward a 767 jumbo jet on fire and compare that to what the federal government is expecting us to believe about the OKC firefighters. I am not buying it.

I do not see the wisdom of your belief. Is it your belief that firemen and rescue personnel should stay in a building if there is belief that the building will blow up and they will be killed themselves? I remember hearing, and seeing, that on 9/11, when it became obvious that the buildings might collapse, the firemen were ordered to evacuate. And they did evacuate. Yes, there were over 300 that didn't make it out, but they were ordered out. Many died trying to get out. And had that order not been given, there would have been 300+ more that died. Firefighters are trained for fighting fires and rescuing people, but if the situation appears as though those firemen will surely die themselves, then they are ordered out. What good is a dead fireman. Don't say it didn't happen. It did. They were ordered out. I was there. Were you? And as to 9/11, again, there were orders for the firemen to evacuate. And they did. You saw the video. I did too. That doesn't diminish their valor and bravery. But there is no point in killing firemen if it can be avoided. Again, a dead fireman cannot help anyone. Firemen don't run into burning buildings if there is not possible way for them to get in, or out. If the building looks as though it will collapse, they don't go in. It happens everyday.

104 posted on 11/10/2002 10:06:51 PM PST by yukong
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To: yukong
Don't say it didn't happen. It did. They were ordered out. I was there.

There is no question the firemen were ordered out, but just as in the case of the WTC, for good reason.

The evidence is clear, the firemen were not ordered out because someone discovered a desk ornament or a 48" TOW missile, or boxes of bullets.

Is it your belief that firemen and rescue personnel should stay in a building if there is belief that the building will blow up and they will be killed themselves?

Do you believe the rescue was terminated because someone discovered a desk ornament, a TOW missile or boxes of bullets?

Did you ever ask who specifically gave the order to evacuate and for what specific reason? I know of at least one firefighter that abandoned a dying lady trapped in the rubble begging for his help. When he returned the lady was dead. If you ask me, that man deserves an answer to the questions who ordered termination on the rescue operations and for what specific reason. I don't know if I deserve an answer, but I know I want one.

105 posted on 11/11/2002 5:38:46 AM PST by honway
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To: yukong
Having been involved in law enforcement for several years, including during the time of the OKC bombing, I was present in OKC the morning of April 19, 1995

Could you please shed some light on the biggest question for me surrounding the OKC bombing.

How do you explain Oklahoma law enforcement officers looking the other way when the FBI and the OKC Police Department participated in the cover up of the murder of OKC Police Officer Terry Yeakey?

Is it a matter of following orders or career security concerns? I can completely understand law enforcement officers looking the other when ordered by their superiors to do so about the murder of a stranger, but I can not understand how the Oklahoma law enforcement community could turn their back on one of their own and an American hero and his family.

If there is any doubt in your mind about the murder and cover up concerning Officer Terry Yeakey's death, please listen to the Tonia Yeakey interview at the link below. The transcripts are also on the link and the letter Terry wrote to his friend Ramona foreshadowing his murder.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/618176/posts

First OKCPD Officer in Murrah Building Murdered, Throat Cut, Body Dragged with Rope

107 posted on 11/11/2002 6:41:39 AM PST by honway
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