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To: Joe Brower
Thanks for the ping.

Speaking of "love your enemies" my husband is a Dem. Yesterday, after church we got into an argument, he said that Republicans are "social darwinists" and I said that Democrats were theives, trying to leave all of their "charitable" acts up to the government, paid for with other people's money...and that their actions were ultimatly destructive to the very people they tried to help, pointing out the rise in the number of old folks on "social security"no longer welcomed in their children's homes, farmed out to nursing homes which are hopelessly understaffed due to the inordinate cost of insurance, a direct result of the trial lawyers that own the DNC.

When the story broke on the "compassionate" Dem postal employee trying to cut 500 jobs in Arkansas, he refused to discuss it. He got all emotional, said he hated politics and would agree to no longer vote if I would simply never bring up the subject to him again.

We live in FL. I am considering his offer. I'm looking for input, here.

67 posted on 11/04/2002 7:42:03 AM PST by Dutchgirl
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To: Dutchgirl
Hmmm... If he promises not to ever vote again while not holding you to the same inaction, I'd call that a step in the right direction.

As for his "Social Darwinist" comment (implying that Democrats are "charitiable"), I offer you the following bit to bounce off of him (gently!):

A Lesson On Big Government
Dinesh D'Souza

The power of coercion, which is inherent in the nature of government, fundamentally undermines the claim that the government is doing a moral thing by helping people. Let me show why this is so.

I am walking down the street, eating a sandwich, when I am approached by a hungry man. He wants to share my sandwich. Now if I give him the sandwich, I have done a good deed, and I feel good about it. The hungry man feels grateful to me, and even if he cannot repay me for my kindness, possibly he will try to help someone else when he has the chance. So this is a transaction that benefits both the giver and the receiver.

But see what happens if the government gets involved. The government takes my sandwich from me by force. Consequently, I am a reluctant giver. The government then bestows my sandwich on the hungry man. Instead of being thankful to me, however, the man feels entitled to this benefit. In other words, the involvement of the state has utterly stripped the transaction of its moral value, even though the material result is exactly the same.

Now let's keep the same scenario but change the outcome. I am approached by the hungry man, as before, but this time, instead of agreeing to share my sandwich, I refuse to do so. Along comes a third man, who pulls out a gun, points it at my head, and forces me to hand over my sandwich to him, upon which he gives it to the hungry guy. What is the moral quality of the gunman's action? I think most people would consider him an unscrupulous thug who should be apprehended and punished. Yet when the government does precisely the same thing - forcibly seizing from some in order to give to others - the liberal insists the government is acting in a just and moral manner. This is clearly not true.

Good luck...


73 posted on 11/04/2002 7:57:47 AM PST by Joe Brower
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To: Dutchgirl
He got all emotional, said he hated politics and would agree to no longer vote if I would simply never bring up the subject to him again.

Take him up on it, Dutchgirl! There are many mixed marriages in the country. Your husband is admitting that you're right. He may come around on his own some day. You've obviously challenged him.

84 posted on 11/04/2002 9:54:54 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Dutchgirl
"...my husband is a Dem....said he hated politics and would agree to no longer vote if I would simply never bring up the subject to him again...I am considering his offer. I'm looking for input, here."

No disrespect intended; but, you're *looking* for input??
Good grief woman, strike while the iron's hot!!

Now about your being a conservative, and, entering into Holy matrimony with a 'Rat??
Wellll...

...you know what Dr. Laura say's about mixed-faith marriages, right? {G}

89 posted on 11/04/2002 10:26:09 AM PST by Landru
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