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To: Pokey78
The SAT is near and dear to my heart, so I enjoyed this article. True, the concept that intelligence and ability are innate and unchangable is flawed, but not completely. I think they err in not realizing they should measure both a students aptitude and achievement.

I always LIKED taking tests, especially multiple choice. It always seemed easy to me to eliminate the choices that were false and selecting the correct one. So I did well on the PSAT in 10th grade (99th percentile) and the SAT test in 11th grade (1973). (750 verbal, 720 math). It helped that I read fast (600 words per minute) and had a good memory. I also studied a list of 2000 vocabulary words before the test.

But apparently, a lot of people have test anxiety, read slowly and have a hard time making decisions. All of those things would kill you on the SAT, while not indicating your aptitude whatsoever. Aptitude should be tested through multiple choice tests, WITHOUT time limits. That'll take away the anxiety part and the reading and decision making part.

I think essays would be far better method of assessing achievement, and I'm sorry they ever got away from them for college entrance exams. Perhaps these changes will be good for measuring achivement now on the SAT--but I still think there is a place for aptitude testing.

Other other problem with the SAT changes is the loss of baseline measurements over the decades of SAT tests. I wonder how my 1973 tests measure against todays? That seems important to me.
4 posted on 11/02/2002 2:32:41 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
If I recall correctly, there have been two - at least - 100 renormalizations. Thus, it seems to me, that my 1350 from the middle Sixties might now be equivalent to a 1550.
7 posted on 11/02/2002 2:54:07 PM PST by dhuffman@awod.com
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
"The SAT is near and dear to my heart, so I enjoyed this article." LOL! Do you also enjoy watching old movies about German concentration camps??
14 posted on 11/02/2002 3:29:40 PM PST by txzman
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
...essays would be far better method of assessing achievement...

That may be true, but the cost of grading them in any fair way would be prohibitive.

The way essays are graded now (or last time I checked, in an optional SAT writing test) is a disgrace.

They have to hire a bunch of temp workers, probably teachers making a few extra bucks. They give them a sample of a grade-5 (best) essay, then give them all an enormous pile of students' essays. They can only spend maybe one minute on each test.

Also, the model essay they provide reads like a bunch of nonsense written by someone who doesn't have a clue what good writing is, but knows how to snow his teachers.

I can write a piece of junk right now they would consider good writing:

While many experienced beer drinkers prefer Miller Lite due to the fact that the taste is superior, there are also those who elect to consume the beverage because of the lesser amount of filling sensation it provides. To illustrate and better illuminate how this apparent dichotomy can lead to both increased consumption as well as interpersonal conflicts...

(and so on, I think you get the idea.)

I agree that you and I could do a good job of grading the students' essays. But to be fair, I might need to take a few minutes on each test. And then we'd have to get together on each test to see if we agree. No doubt there will be many essays we'll give different grades to, and probably some that we'll disagree by a lot. What's fair to do, just average the two grades?

But the biggest problems are these:

This isn't like one teacher who has maybe thirty, or maybe one hundred essays to grade and a few days to do it. More like there's a pile of a million essays to go through and one day to do it. There's no choice other than flying through them as fast as possible.

The other problem is that after a few hours (actually probably much less) of reading essays, my brain will be so sick of them I'll never want to see an essay again. There's no way I could fairly grade any essay after I've just read a few hundred in a few hours. (Especially not at the crummy wages they pay.)

30 posted on 11/02/2002 7:26:05 PM PST by Flashlight
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