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Man Sues After Finding Girl Not His Daughter
Yahoo News ^ | 11/01/02

Posted on 11/02/2002 4:34:20 AM PST by Libloather

Man Sues After Finding Girl Not His Daughter
Fri Nov 1,10:43 AM ET

MELBOURNE (Reuters) - An Australian man is suing his former partner to recover more than $10,000 he spent on a little girl, for things such as presents, zoo trips and meals, after discovering she was not his daughter, a newspaper said on Friday.

"I want it all back -- every cent for every toy, every blanket, every bit of food," the man, who can't be identified for legal reasons, said.

"I wouldn't have spent all that money had I known five years ago she wasn't my kid," he was quoted saying by the Herald-Sun.

The claims include take-away McDonald's food over five years, four visits to an amusement park, three Barbie dolls, a Pooh Bear play tent, a day of skating, and child support payments.

The Herald-Sun said the man took the action after DNA tests found the girl was not his daughter.

The girl's mother said she was willing to repay the child support payments but that she should not have to pay back anything else.

"She had a good time with him that's the main thing," she was quoted as saying. "I don't think he should carry on too much about it. He should treat it like doing something nice with a friend."


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To: BuddhaBoy
It's worse than that. Sex takes two consenting partners and both gain the pleasure. . .

181 posted on 11/02/2002 9:20:56 AM PST by William Terrell
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To: BuddhaBoy
I suspected that your pent up anger was related to this fact. 'IT takes a village' and 'For the children' often turn into using confiscatory taxes (real estate, fed, state and local and sales taxes are well over 50% of your income now, prolly closer to 60%) to subsidize illegitamacy.

And anything that is subsidezed will grow and grow. Remember welfare? Well, it took the pubbies taking over congress to stem the rampant growth of welfare.

So while we morn the loss the of the realtionship between this father and daughter, she still has a real dad and we should root the 10% of these cases and shame the parties involved to end this trend.
182 posted on 11/02/2002 9:23:04 AM PST by fooman
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To: Jaidyn
You are correct but it is up to adults to protect the children who cannot protect themselves.

Yes, but not at the expense of the rights of another human being.

This child's interests are not be default more important then the man's interests. I know how harsh that sounds, but when you start placing the interests of some over others by matter of age, you open up every right in society to interpretation by condition.

Our Constitution is a very harsh, unfeeling document. It does not proscribe rights to some, and not others based upon age, condition, race, or excuse. This child is just one of many victimized by fraud.

You dont make a crime go away, buy allowing it's victims to just "put some ice on that", but essentially, that is what people are suggesting this man do.

183 posted on 11/02/2002 9:23:44 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: BuddhaBoy
OK.

re:"Will you forgive any fraud if it benefits a child?"

I have veered from this question because it is far too open-ended. I really don't understand it, but I'll try . No, I wouldn't forgive any possible, hypothetical fraud one can dream up just because it benefits a child. That is not the case in this story.

re:The fact that the child will be hurt is not relevant. )))

Oh, you are *wrong*!

The man was the victim of fraud. Does that matter to you or not?

Flesh and blood are not to be transacted like football tickets. If you try, you'll cause waves of pain which will eventually knock you over with their force. The man was a victim of a cruel deception, but he is not without responsibility. The human heart, and the flesh that surrounds it, is a precious commodity (since your rhetoric prefers the market). Demean it, and it will demean you. This is what adults must face in dealing with other adults, if they seek maturity. The man tried to have something on his own terms, and was disappointed. My sympathy extends to the point of buying a lemon of a vehicle, which isn't too far. I sense your sympathy extends much father.

If you prefer the laws of market and jungle, I'd like to point out that you'd better have a signed contract at the beginning-- and none is possible here, nor should they be possible, in the dealings of hearts and flesh.

It is not the mother who is being sued. It is the child. It's her toys and amusements (the time they spent together in affection) which are begrudged and are being demanded in tribute to a bruised pride.

If you can get your mind off the guy's feeling cheated for a moment, consider that a child's sense of worth is her everything, for the rest of her life. There's more important things than a defrauded ego.

Now, a real prince of a fellow would at least try to be the Honorable Uncle to a child he loves. She really needs the help, and he was willing enough at one time.

184 posted on 11/02/2002 9:25:19 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Piltdown_Woman
It is NOT about the money, it is about the LAW.

When the Liberals were saying "it is all about sex", did you agree with that?

We conservatives need to be more consistant than that.

185 posted on 11/02/2002 9:25:39 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: Mamzelle
How about this one, the man did nothing wrong, and faced 5 years of his time, money and love because of fraud. Any harm was DIRECTLY caused by the fraudulent WOMAN and any emotional trama the child may be caused is because of the FRAUD the woman committed.
186 posted on 11/02/2002 9:26:31 AM PST by rb22982
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To: RichardW
You are an emotional liberal when it comes to children. If the child isn't his, it isn't his responsiblity, period. He can out of his good graces stay in touch with the child if he so chooses, but he is under NO moral obligation to continue the mother's fraud over her child and the man.
187 posted on 11/02/2002 9:28:58 AM PST by rb22982
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To: William Terrell
It's worse than that. Sex takes two consenting partners and both gain the pleasure. . .

Check your freep mail.

188 posted on 11/02/2002 9:30:09 AM PST by Mark17
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To: Mamzelle
Oh, but it's worse than abandonment. No one expects him to pay further child support, but this case involves a public gesture (civil suit) of contempt and hate toward the child herself. "Gimme back them dolls and teddy bears. You're worthless, and never deserved them."

This is NOT true, he asked for REIMBURSEMENT for the COSTS of the items from the MOTHER.

189 posted on 11/02/2002 9:30:26 AM PST by rb22982
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To: Polybius
Ha yeah I thought the same thing. Of course the years 0-3 are a little tough as far as entertainment goes. But I remember having tons of fun times with my daughter when she was a toddler.

Mom and daughter will pay for it at some point, though maybe not monetarily.

190 posted on 11/02/2002 9:34:26 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: quebecois
"The guy is not angry with the girl, he is angry at the woman's duplicity." No! You cannot separate the 5 yr old daughter and the mother in the eyes of the daughter. Yes, the mother was (assuming she was sure about the true paternity) wrong. But this little girls entire life involves both the mother and this mom. While the guy is not necessarily the villian, he comes across as an insensitive ass.
191 posted on 11/02/2002 9:34:49 AM PST by DaGman
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To: Mamzelle
Oh, you are *wrong*!

I'm not wrong, and I think you should examine your conservative credentials.

There is no passage in the Constitution that says: "Oh, by the way, we suspend all these rights, if some child is going to be hurt by their protection."

We we are equal, then we are ALL equal. Young and old alike. The impact on the child is not relevant to the discussion, no matter how harsh, no matter how tragic.

192 posted on 11/02/2002 9:37:13 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: doug from upland
Children are being raised by stepfathers all across this nation. In many cases, those stepfathers are the fathers who are most responsible for guiding the child's life.

True. But a vast majority of these cases involve a man getting involved with a woman who already has children. Therefore he enters the relationship with full knowledge of the situation.

This is far different than the fraud illustrated in this current story.

193 posted on 11/02/2002 9:37:41 AM PST by Golan Trevize
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
That's obsurd. That women take no part in deciding whether to bet bopped or not is just silly. Yes, men are reckless but women can keep their legs closed. Otherwise toss they guy in jail for rape.

I never said anything about women not taking a part in it, but only that men can protect themselves by keeping their manhood zipped. Do you disagree with that? If so, then call that absurd rather than attacking me for points I didn't make.

And, women often times choose "bad" men because they want the thrill and excitement.

So what? All many men want is a piece-o-butt and don't care what kind of woman they get it from. Yet when it turns out that the kind of woman they just "conquered" is a man hater who wanted some baby making sperm or a woman who wants a man with more money then her soon to be born child's father has, they act as if they're the victims. The question is, how long does this have to happen before men wise up and face the fact that their concept of manhood is being used against them?

194 posted on 11/02/2002 9:38:29 AM PST by Balto_Boy
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To: doug from upland
Would you care to discuss the points I bring up here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here?

195 posted on 11/02/2002 9:41:11 AM PST by William Terrell
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To: BuddhaBoy
It is NOT about the money, it is about the LAW.

LOL, you've just proven my point.

This little girl no longer has the emotional support she once enjoyed from this cretin...and yes, his decision is entirely a money-issue. He wants every penny back that ever spent on her...including the food he provided...an immature response from an equally immature male.

In my opinion, she is much better off without this human refuse in her life.

196 posted on 11/02/2002 9:41:33 AM PST by Aracelis
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To: William Terrell
"Would you let a crook off when he coned you out of thousands of dollars because his child benefited from it? And don't tell it's not the same thing. It is exactly the same. A deceitful woman (crook) coned (lied to him aobut the child being his) an innocent man, causing him to pay thousands of dollars and the only reason he should suck it up is because a child (not his, just like the crook's child would not be your's) benefited and would be hurt if he demanded justice."

Sorry, but I'm going to have to tell you it's not the same thing. In my mind, it's not the taking away of the money from this girl's life that is the problem. It's him asking for the money. In doing this he is tossing her away like old shoes...after 5 years of being her daddy. Children - people - are not stuff. A real feeling human being does not try to return a child after 5 years and ask for his or her money back.

Was he wronged? Absolutely. Does he have a legal case? Yep. But if he now chooses money over his relationship with this little girl, he is cold as ice and I guess we now know how he wound up with this girl's deceitful mother and this whole mess was created.

He has the right to sue, but just because he has the right does not make it the right thing to do.
197 posted on 11/02/2002 9:42:10 AM PST by Route66
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To: Dutch-Comfort
Ah, but, so it appears, they are your kids, so that you are just dealing with a generous imagination and not reality

True, thank God. But for five years this man beleived the little girl was his daughter. How does that go away so fast? Not to mention the fact he wants all her toys back, so he is intentionally hurting her too. I suspect like others do that there is more to this story.

198 posted on 11/02/2002 9:43:46 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: Piltdown_Woman
It's all about the money, dontcha know...

It's about the fraud and deceit and the willingness to forgive the perp because a child may be hurt.

199 posted on 11/02/2002 9:46:39 AM PST by William Terrell
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To: All
"I am sorry that Ms Broderick was raped by the President. However, there are more important matters at stake here. The Presidency; the Country, cannot be put on hold in order to punish one man for breaking the law. She knew what she was getting into, by going to Clinton's hotel room, and although her rights were violated, I feel that for the good of the Country, we should let this pass, and continue as though nothing happened." We cant allow the Country to suffer for the rights of one female.

I wonder how many of you so-called conservatives see anything familiar here to some of your comments?

200 posted on 11/02/2002 9:48:15 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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