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Man Sues After Finding Girl Not His Daughter
Yahoo News ^ | 11/01/02

Posted on 11/02/2002 4:34:20 AM PST by Libloather

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To: BuddhaBoy
re:Harsh as it may seem, the kid DIDNT deserve the toys from HIM. Get over it.)))

I likely will, and will make a better effort to pity the children who are so treated. After all, without that pity, they may well enact a vengeance on us all,

But, you, Buddhaboy, will not get over it, whether you feel the peril, or not.

141 posted on 11/02/2002 8:40:14 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Libloather
Poor little girl.
142 posted on 11/02/2002 8:40:19 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: doug from upland
Doug, as someone I admire, I am surprised at you.

This is a matter of fraud, and the child needs to be introduced to her real father.

This man has literally just had HIS child taken away. Is he entitled to nothing? Why are the hard issues here not placed at the feet of the mother?

This man AND this child are victims here. I dont see why this man is not intitled to his rights.

143 posted on 11/02/2002 8:41:43 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: Libloather
What a creep. He should be strung up. I bet the little girl is feeling wonderful right now knowing that the man who pretended to be her daddy now wants to take it back.
144 posted on 11/02/2002 8:42:23 AM PST by Demidog
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To: Mamzelle
Boys take their pleasure and cry about consequences later. If they had the wisdom of preparedness, they'd know which women to leave alone.

Basically, all of them.

145 posted on 11/02/2002 8:42:28 AM PST by adx
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To: Mamzelle
I could respect you, if your pity extended to the other victim. You treat the man as just some potential sperm-doner, with nothing at stake.
146 posted on 11/02/2002 8:42:57 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: quebecois
The guy is not angry with the girl

Then why does he want to punish her?

147 posted on 11/02/2002 8:44:32 AM PST by Demidog
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To: adx
"Boys take their pleasure"

Dont you just love that phrase?

As if there is no pleasure component in sex for women. Maybe that phrase is descriptive of things we need not know?

Breathtaking.

148 posted on 11/02/2002 8:45:03 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: BuddhaBoy
The judgement is NOT on the child, but on the original victim of fraud. The ROOT CAUSE of this is the actions of the mother.)))

First Cause is all? But there are many, many causes in this dilemma.

God's judgement is one thing.

The judgement of men, and life, will be on the child, and you are pronouncing it to be one you approve of.

149 posted on 11/02/2002 8:45:42 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: DainBramage
Thank you for your kind heart, DB. Imagine this poor litle girl, whose is not a fault, and how she must feel. The man can have his anger with his "partner" but should keep the child out of it. What a tiny little stone of a heart he has.
150 posted on 11/02/2002 8:47:24 AM PST by Libertina
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To: adx
Basically, all of them.

LOL, maybe you should do like I did, and go OCS for a woman.

151 posted on 11/02/2002 8:48:25 AM PST by Mark17
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To: fooman
This happened in my family. I was reluctant to talk about it because there are so many variables that are unexplainable on this forum. (I will use fictious names but some of you who know will recognize them). John found out he had a daughter when she was 19. The mother told her and John the same day. The scenario I explained earlier was about our situation. The father that raised them suspected the daughter wasn't his but stayed the course. "Barb" was rebellious and didn't get along with her half-siblings. John immediately accepted responsibilty and had to tell his children, who were more angry than Barb was. Since he was divorced from his first wife at the time, I was the one who had to come to terms with it. In the beginning, Barb liked the idea of a 'new father' who had money and John did spend quite a bit on her, buying her a car, etc. She wanted me out of the picture and there were problems. As time went on, she came to terms with me and the situation and it's as though he were there all along. She has since, turned into a wonderful mother and is happy that she knows the truth. It was when she didn't know the facts that life was hard for her. The father who raised her? I have no idea because I didn't get involved any more than was requested of me. There HAS to be honesty no matter how hurtful to either parent or the child. The child will be hurt either way, so why not just hurt her with the truth? That way, there is something to build on. The situations sounds simple while typing it but it was the craziest mess I have ever been part of. I am Mom to her and grandma to her kids and even get along with the real mom....who is a real winner...if you know what I mean.
152 posted on 11/02/2002 8:52:03 AM PST by Jaidyn
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To: Libloather
It's a shame that this woman was so willing to destroy her daughter by lying about who the father was.

If women can freely choose to kill their babies (abortion) then men should be allowed the same/similar right. Men should be allowed to sign a "statement of abortion" stating that, similarly to women, "due to the inconvienience that this child will have on my life I hearby abort it and take no responsibility for it forever." Then if the woman decides not to kill her baby she must take care of him or her on her own. Obviously the U.S. Supreme Court will side with the man's "right to choose" so it is Constitutional.

When will NOW start railing for a man's right to choose?!?!

153 posted on 11/02/2002 8:52:16 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: BuddhaBoy
re:This man has literally just had HIS child taken away. Is he entitled to nothing? Why are the hard issues here not placed at the feet of the mother? )))

If you can think of some way to get at her without hurting the little girl, suggest one. I like the idea, but nothing creative comes to mind except this civil suit, which is an attack on a child, not the mother.

As for the pain of losing a child, I hope that's what behind this, but I doubt it. Looks like offended pride to me.

He doesn't HAVE to lose her, after all. That's a decision he's made. Perhaps he should go for custody...?

154 posted on 11/02/2002 8:52:55 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
I can spell "dear", too, but I meant "deer", as in the headlights, which is where you will be if you don't learn to think.

I suppose it remains fruitless to point out that this child did nothing wrong, and faces quite a painful, life-altering rejection that this public battle will only make worse.

You're right. So what if a child was involved? Will you forgive any fraud if it benefits a child? How about theft and manslaughter? Think! If that becomes the norm, how about the next crook that cons you out of your house, but is let off because it benefited his daughter?

Would you be angry if that happened? Or would "one of the few ones left" hold and console you that you should just forget it, a child was helped?

Lady, your emotive lack of thought and reason is precisely the source of democratic and liberal socialist advances in our culture, and the resulting rot of our legal system, which is supposed to keep the right of all people safe. If people lose faith in the ability of our system to give out justice, our civilization will collapse, and you will be as responsible as if you personally threw the switch.

Does the name Mary Beth Whitehead mean anything to you?

Don't you realize that the chaos producing principles in what you are saying is exactly why men think of women in the way you object to, and the reason many of which want to see the 19th amendment repealed?

155 posted on 11/02/2002 8:54:46 AM PST by William Terrell
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To: BuddhaBoy
This man AND this child are victims here...

The biggest part of the flack you've been getting here, BuddhaBoy lies in the perception that you didn't consider the child a victim as well. Finally stating that outright will perhaps dispel that perception...

the infowarrior

156 posted on 11/02/2002 8:55:23 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: Balto_Boy
I hate to say it, but the problems facing men today aren't due to feminism, but to other men and their own recklessness.

That's obsurd. That women take no part in deciding whether to bet bopped or not is just silly. Yes, men are reckless but women can keep their legs closed. Otherwise toss they guy in jail for rape.

And, women often times choose "bad" men because they want the thrill and excitement. If women choose men of good character we wouldn't have the problems that we have today. The jerks would quickly straighten up because they wouldn't get any if they didn't.

I vote with Dr. Laura on this one...

157 posted on 11/02/2002 8:56:52 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: Jaidyn
I am sorry for your tough family situation. While I will never understand the tough facts and feelings you went through, it does seem to illustrate that knowing the truth seems to cause the least long term harm.
158 posted on 11/02/2002 8:57:21 AM PST by fooman
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To: Mamzelle
"Will you forgive any fraud if it benefits a child?"

I would really like you to answer this question, because it goes to the root of the argument here.

The fact that the child will be hurt is not relevant.

The man was the victim of fraud. Does that matter to you or not?

159 posted on 11/02/2002 8:57:40 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: Libloather
If it was me and I didn't have to pay any more, that would be good enough.

Let me get this straight.
For 5 years he thought she was his and he loved her.
Now he finds out she is not his, so now he doesn't love her.

Ok, he got fooled and he spent money on a little girl he loved.Now he's going to destroy her.
I have a pretty good idea what this is going to do to this little girl and it won't be good.


160 posted on 11/02/2002 8:57:56 AM PST by philetus
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